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do the 1000mb-500mb have that much of an effect. i thought that 850mb was what mattered.

Hey Bliz accuweather peps saying that temps from NAM do not matter, but rather the temps from the ECM matter. Any thoughts?

Quoting Snowlover2010:
do the 1000mb-500mb have that much of an effect. i thought that 850mb was what mattered.

Very good read here explaining snow forecasting broken down into 50 slides that are easily understandable.

Ain't it great?

I love it because it's not overly technical but in the same breath explains the technicalities. Very good presentation.

Been trying to get thru to your site, was having problems, but now seems to be working. 36.8F now baro 1013mb wind N 5mph. light mist. As noted when I was on Sulli's blog, been at about 36F for over 8 hours, had some snow mixing in with the rain about 7PM when some heavier cells were comig thru.

temps have pretty much remained steady. its fallen down to 36.5F a change of 0.8F over the last 12 hours

rain for the storm so far is 1.03"
barometer 1012.3mb and slowly rising

Wow this Nor'easter has deepened to 986mb amazing, models only had it at 992mb at the lowest. I have head off to class, be back at around 10am.

well, I really didn't think I would get into the snow area here in eastern mass,but sure enough, around 6 am this morning it changed over to light snow and is continuing lightly as the morning progresses.

on a couple of side notes:

La Guardia set a low temp record overnight by 3F. not sure about any other records. i was looking at weather for Middletown, NY and the record showed. I also saw Richmond, Va set a new record low max for 10/15 by 2F

Also, looking at the webcam along the beach at 15th St in Ocean City, MD the ocean is getting closer to the boardwalk. I am also seeing a tidal pool next to the boardwalk, so I would assume at high tide sometime after 6am that is where the waves were ending
Link if you go to this link there is live video of the surf. go to Clarion hotel cam. nice video

Linkthis one is from The Castle in the Sand and is a great view - very wide lens

snow has ended here,Blizz with trees fully leafed or leaved? snow accumulations like that are disastrous,I still remember our May snowstorm way back,brought down trees branches and major power outages.

blizz- is there still a good chance for snow saturday evening/night in state college?

7" ? is that all snow? wow. for this time of the year that is ridiculous. glad we aren't getting that much snow. i am not prepared. my snowblower is in the shed. i had it worked on at the end of last season, but i haven't looked at it since. not sure if it has oil and/or gas. hahaha. i guess i can always shovel

Thanks for the video links Rasberry, I particularly like the PALM TREES there in the Castle in the Sand resort. Is that in Maryland? I wonder how they survive there?

blizz- Do you have a guesstimate as to how much more they are going to get?

yes originalLT. it is Maryland and I believe the palm trees don't survive the winter. I think they are replaced every spring. almost every resort or outside restaurant has them. i am guessing they must not cost much. that is a great view from the Castle

Hey Blizz! Enjoying winter? XD

from that view where i have to tilt my head it appears that the pavement isn't getting covered.

will the snow make it down to KMDT?

temp here 37.5F

I couldn't have imagine how much snow Cape Cod, MA could have received between these two lows had the storm occurred in late January, early February. They could have received at least several feet of snow.

TDW - in the history of Cape Cod when have they ever gotten several feet of snow? now play it out with these storms in Jan or Feb. do you really think they would set up like that? i think sometimes you have to be a realist and recognize that the storms would never set up like that unless it has happened before. granted it can happen anytime, but if it has happened in the past or once before WELL

Quoting Blizzard92:
charlesimages- Winter is not here, only 36 or 37 with rain.

That's too bad really.. Unless you'd rather look at it as fortunate?

Blizz - you were like that all last winter. guidance said YES and you just didn't have that feeling. It is only October, but yet again State College and points very nearby are getting snow. Our temps are awfully close. Also, the sun is still high in the sky if #2 hits early.

rain is still coming down lightly, but enough to get you wet if you stood outside for a couple of minutes, but it really isn't showing up on radar.

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The Cape did have a couple of feet of snow back about 1990. It was at the time Boston had their huge storm.

Quoting TheRasberryPatch:
TDW - in the history of Cape Cod when have they ever gotten several feet of snow? now play it out with these storms in Jan or Feb. do you really think they would set up like that? i think sometimes you have to be a realist and recognize that the storms would never set up like that unless it has happened before. granted it can happen anytime, but if it has happened in the past or once before WELL

Woa, settle down. In matter of fact we have gotten 35" of snow in a single storm, so don't tell me we haven't, when I have so many times in the past talked about this storm. Perhaps last winter, we had several consecutive snowstorms blast the central New England area. Given that the storm track is expected to come up the East Coast for the majority of the winter, I believe the coast will be more favored for snowstorms then say PA or inland areas. Now based on the last several storms to affect us this fall, this track is becoming contagious with the exception of the rogue Great Lakes Cutters when we all get warm sectored and it comes in as rain with a front. So I am being realistic, however you are right in the fact that it is rare, but it is realistic.

State College looks like an absolute disaster right now.

Patch - there is always time for something to happen for a first time. Cape Cod, MA has actually had many storms where we have received 2 feet or more of snow, so I don't know where this attitude is coming from, maybe perhaps you are mixing us up with somewhere else, but we get our fair share of snowstorms with more then a foot, you just don't hear about on this blog, because I am complaining about storms missing us either way a lot, we have gotten at least several big snowstorms, here are some examples: February 26-27, 1999 (24"), February 7, 2003 (14"), February 17-18, 2003 (18"), December 26, 2004 (15"), January 23, 2005 (35"), these are just several storms, we also had a snowstorm in November of 1989 where we got 12" or more, and I was only three months old. Also in 1993-1994 winter we got 65.8" of snow the previous record holder, until that was broken in the winter of 2004-2005 where we got 92.6" of snow total.

TDA and Miss Nadia I wasn't saying that a couple of feet couldn't happen, but that is usually from one storm. i was just commenting on that I can't recall too many times in the past where a two storms dropped 2 feet or more from each in a day or two period, but I am not an expert. Blizz has the book that talks about these storms, maybe he can comment if there has ever been two storms back to back dropping several feet of snow on an area of the east coast

sorry TDA that you think i have some type of attitude. i am just commenting. please don't take anything i say seriously. it is just a comment. take things lighthearted. its just a blog

charlesimages- It is miserable out there. I think yesterday was worse with a strong easterly wind.

Stay warm man! We should warm up here in MI this weekend.. will try to share..

I have the same book, and Patch I think you misread my statement, a said 2 feet or more in total of the two storms like in 2003 where we had a storm on February 7, 2003 dump 14-18" and then February 17-18, 2003 dump another 18" of snow. I was talking about this, not 2 feet or more each from a two storm event.

Sorry Patch, I thought you were being a little smart with the statement, but in terms of feet with each storm, there I believe you are right in that regard. I hope that would occur, I am optimistic that it is possible for that to occur, since anything in reality is possible. However I was talking about a few feet in total from two snowstorms. In this case we have a +PNA and -NAO trending positive which means we still have a blocking pattern and a closed 500mb low that develops causing the slowing down of the second storm which the models are showing. I know that you are nice Patch, just got caught up in the moment, it's hard to distinguish someone's demeanor on the computer when emotions cannot be shown.

Quoting Blizzard92:
TheRasberryPatch- There have been a few "1 two punches" as the weather channel refers to them, hahaha. But I do not believe there have been back to back "feet" snowstorms within three days of each other.

the best 1 two punch i've ever seen was 1996 with the blizzard giving over 30+" of snow followed by 12" of snow a day or two later. then it all melted lol

I remember the best 1, 2 punch for Cape Cod was in 2005 when we had the Blizzard of 2005, followed by a clipper with another 4-8" of snow. Got to go to class, be back in two hours or so.

Blizz - you were question your confidence in the models and whether the dewpt will get low enough. i thought a s/w is moving out of the lakes. wouldn't that help reinforce the colder air? btw - i don't believe you. i need pictures. hahaha. still light rain or heavy drizzle here. kind of lightening up a bit

Mason - i recall those storms. We got the big snow on a Sunday into Monday and then the smaller storm on Friday. Then like 10 days later the temps got up to 60F and we got over 2" of rain.

No worries TDA.

This first storm was pretty much a non-event for where I"m at about 10 miles west of boston,other than the little light snow this morning.Will have to see what the second storm brings.

Afternoon blizzard...

Here in nepa the sun is trying to poke out. We had 2" on the grass and trees and a little on the walkway.

Blizz - will the rest of the day be this heavy drizzle? i want to get out and spend an hour outside working on my log rack.

Heads up to anybody headed to Happy Valley for Homecoming against Minnesota.

Due to the snow and forecasted significant snow tonight and into tomorrow, the grass lots at Beaver Stadium are closed. RV Parking is being redirected, tailgating is closed even in paved lots. Those attending the game are urged to carpool or walk if possible. The University is working with several local businesses to free up parking lots to allow parking and shuttle services for the game.

The Stadium is also going to be snow covered. Make sure to dress warm with a waterproof outer layer and shoes with traction.

Snowball fights, FTW!