The Excitement of Epic Destruction
|By: Astrometeor, 9:21 PM GMT on September 22, 2013||+2|
Quoting 978. scott39:
There is such a hunger for a Major Hurricane(myself included.) My prediction is this site will crash when we get the first one this season. I want to see a bona-fide cape verde beautiful Major Hurricane. Oh, and please dont respond with, "oh Scott, you want death and destruction." 99.9999% of you who say that, want to see a major too.
Quoting 1003. KoritheMan:
I've said before that humans are drawn toward tragedy. When someone is murdered or raped, we are more interested in hearing that than we are that a 5 year old found his favorite toy after he'd lost it.
Even if some people don't want a major hurricane, they will definitely be more attentive to it than a Category 3 fish spinner, if only to protect their life. But that still proves people are drawn toward tragedy, regardless of the reason.
People need to stop hiding it.
Scott responds, but only agrees with "You bet, human nature."
Quoting 1028. sar2401:
People need to stop hiding that they want to see a major hurricane cause untold death and destruction for their amusement, so they won't be bored? Maybe you can clarify that.
People are always interested in any event out of the ordinary. That's why traffic backs up from rubberneckers looking at an accident. That's rather different that someone driving around with a police scanner looking for accidents, hoping to find a multicar pileup with multiple injuries. Well balanced people pay attention to anything that could be risk to them their family, or their community. Unbalanced people want to see any disaster because it meets a sick desire to see destruction and suffering. Really, there are enough people that think we're all a little nuts without giving them even more reasons to believe they're right.
Quoting 1087. KoritheMan:
Yes. All of my friends know that I want to see a major hurricane. If admitting that to people makes them hate me, I really don't care.
Nobody wants destruction, even those who want a storm. And anyone who suggests they do is not thinking rationally, as is typically the case during controversial topics like this.
But "I don't understand your mentality, therefore you're sick and twisted" is not justification for saying what you said, nor will it ever be.
I'm not really going to try and debate the point any further, because it'll just be an emotional pissing contest between both of us.
You, me, or anybody else, have no right to label people with differing opinions as insane, sick, twisted, or any other random derogatory label. People need to get off their soapboxes and realize that; the sooner the better.
EDIT: I will say though, that I think there's a time and place to admit you want to see a hurricane. It's all in the presentation. That's why JFV has garnered such a bad reputation around these parts, because he lacks compassion. For example, I would never admit to wanting a hurricane while one is bearing down somewhere. That's disrespectful. I would admit to wanting one during quiet and solitude like now though, and if that doesn't sit well with some people, so be it.
Quoting 1102. mitthbevnuruodo:
I love to see a major hurricane, for the beauty of nature that one is...with it's well formed eye and perfect banding,it's amazing to view. But want it to be a fish storm...in any basin. I have no desire to see it hit anyone.
I think some DO like to see destruction. Some people are just messed up. But I just like to see the beauty of nature..albeit from afar as possible, and not ruining anyone elses lives either. I'm just interested in weather, mother nature and geological events...and do wish there wasn't a human impact with them. It's just unavoidable sometimes sadly though
Quoting 1105. KoritheMan:
Agreed. I'm not one of those people, though. :)
Despite what a lot of people think, the desire for a major hurricane and compassion are not mutually exclusive.
Quoting 1112. mitthbevnuruodo:
Totally agree man
And have never thought you one for wanting one to see destruction, so no worries from here
Quoting 1120. washingtonian115:
I would like to experience a cat 1 at least but on an abandoned island where no one lives and where no one else can get hurt...I expressed that one time on the blog and got shot down for it.I however don't like seeing hurricanes near land where people and lives are at stake.I know for sure..
And if anyone brings up that "My taxes got to pay for.."
Just know that your taxes also help pay for jail where bad people have cable medical help and 3 meals a day with a bed to sleep on..
Quoting 1132. RTSplayer:
Well, I really do like to see ridiculously strong storms, just over water, not on land.
The strong ones are like a work of art or something. Just awesome in so many ways.
What I might say, carefully, is that sometimes even the destruction is an awe inspiring display of nature, but it makes you sad when you think about the individuals harm or losses. Yet there is something incredibly thrilling about going out and feeling 80mph or more wind and rain in your face and leaning into it or holding on to something.
I remember those videos from those guys riding out Charley eye wall, or Geraldo in Galveston with the anemometer showing 140mph gusts in Ike.
It is a shame the damage and loss of life that's caused. I guess it would be great if we could somehow build and plan in a way that no lives were ever lost and no major damage ever done to homes and such, but it doesn't look like that day is near.
We can do without landfalls above cat 1, even though I admit it is thrilling to stand and feel the wind and rain of an Andrew or Gustav, or even Katrina, but it's also gut wrenching the amount of harm it was. I feared the loss of life from Katrina, and my fears were well founded, but I guess I didn't actually "expect" the loss of life to be that bad, yet it was literally a perfect storm over water.
I guess there's no "PC" way to frame the concept of how nature can be both beautiful and horrible at the same time.
Quoting 1141. sar2401:
That's the reason I asked you to clarify your statement. I never labeled you as anything. I posed a question and asked you to clarify your position. Your answer is you want to see a hurricane and all your friends know you want to see a major hurricane. If your friends know you want to see a major hurricane, but somewhere out to sea, where there won't be death and destruction, why would that make them hate you? It's not that most people want destruction, but some people don't care if there's destruction, as long as their wish is fulfilled. When you're young and you have no family (as in wife and kids) or property that can be destroyed, you tend to have a different view of hurricanes. I don't even know where you live and if your own life is at risk. You may not realize it, or may not even care, but it's disrespectful to ever want to see a hurricane that will cause destruction and death. They will do so, regardless of what you or I want, but that's still different than wanting to see one that will cause death and destruction. I would gladly take an entire season of really ugly cat 1's out to sea than ever see another Katrina. It's not how beautiful she looked from above, which is undeniable. It's how ugly she looked at ground level. Unless your were there, you can never understand.
Quoting 1144. KoritheMan:
Don't forget the two week power outages that accompanies major hurricanes.
Gustav left me without power for five days. I can't imagine going longer than that.
I may want a hurricane, and enjoy them, but it's also very wise to understand the full implications of what comes with them. I for one don't like a prolonged lack of electricity, especially not with four annoying little siblings running around the house. :P
Quoting 1152. KoritheMan:
We'll agree to disagree on this part.
As for the rest of your post, I think it was spot on, and I have nothing bad to say about it.
Quoting 1205. plywoodstatenative:
To those in here who say that they would love to see a major cane. I will say this: For those of us on here that are survivors of Hurricane Andrew or Katrina, systems like that you DO NOT want to have happen all over. You say you want to see a system like that, but what if it were your friends or relatives that had to ride out that system? What then would you say, would you still desire to see one form? Remember this, do not wish for something that you can not yourself live through.
Quoting 1267. Tribucanes:
Whether or not nature conjures up a major or not is not up to any of us. Nothing wrong at all at wanting to see a major. They are amazing acts of nature. Majors happen every single year and rooting for the inevitable to form doesn't make one a bad person. If my family or friends decide to ride it out then it then becomes their bad choice. Rooting for a major will have zero impact on what happens in real time. Most watch to learn, share, and follow closely the few majors that do pose a threat. It's the height of the season when that happens. Many of us are delighted at the beauty of the storm, and pray for those in the path. The two don't have to be at odds.
I LIKE destruction, it leaves me in awe of a storm. There is nothing wrong with that. It lies within every human being, which explains traffic jams whenever there's an accident. Nobody has ever wished destruction on anyone else, that has never happened. What every human wishes for is the strongest storm to make landfall, to see just how powerful the storm is against the most-advanced species on this planet. To see ourselves put in our own place by Mother Nature is a truly amazing thing, and is what inspires many young kids to grow up and become meteorologists.
Of course, human deaths are never wanted, however, unfortunately change only comes around when something truly horrific (such as a large loss of life) occurs. It may sound paradoxical, but sometimes a huge loss of life is needed in order to reduce the loss further down the road. The United States needs a reminder or a push to stronger building codes, to prepping the coast against storms and such. National Geographic says that the Dutch make their dikes built to withstand a 1-in-10,000 year storm. The U.S. levees/dikes are good for a 1-in-100 storm. That needs to change in light of the rising ocean levels.
The Lake O situation in Florida is already reaching a fever-pitch in terms of action needed to avert a potentially deadly situation. The Netherlands reacted in the '50s after losing 1800 people after a dike failure. Katrina killed 1800, yet the Corps has hardly done anything (if that) across the board.
Thanks for reading, I will post more of my thoughts in the comments section seeing as how long this post is. Comments are welcome as always!
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