Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Great Falls Montana 
908 PM MDT Wed may 22 2013 


Update... 
numerous light rain showers continue to push northward over the 
Treasure state...as this area of precipitation continues to rotate 
around the main area of upper low pressure over the Pacific 
northwest. Expect this steadier shower activity to continue 
through tonight over the western half of the County Warning Area...while areas 
around Lewistown...Harlem and Havre only seeing a passing shower 
at best. Thus pops have been raised in the west and remain low in 
the east for tonight. Also...the threat for thunderstorms has 
greatly diminished...thus those have been dropped for tonight. 
Forecast models indicate that most of the precipitation will come 
to an end early on Thursday morning...and only a passing light 
shower is expected in most areas during the day. The next main 
area of precipitation should affect the region Thursday 
night...especially over much of north central Montana. 


The Winter Weather Advisory continues for the Rocky Mountain 
front. A few inches will be possible on Marias Pass...but the most 
significant snowfall should occur near ridge tops. Brusda 


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Aviation... 
updated 2355z. 
Showers will turn to widespread rain this evening except at khvr and 
klwt. The rain will turn back to showers late tonight into Thursday 
morning. The main forecast problem will be how low conditions will 
go. Like yesterday some guidance forecasts VFR conditions while 
other guidance forecasts MVFR/IFR conditions. Tended to take a 
middle-of-the-Road approach so over southwest Montana went with 
primarily VFR conditions with occasional MVFR conditions. At kgtf 
and kctb on the other hand went with MVFR/IFR conditions later 
tonight and continuing into Thursday morning. Do expect generally 
VFR conditions Thursday afternoon over the entire forecast area with 
MVFR/IFR conditions in local heavy precipitation. As for 
thunderstorms the only threat for thunderstorms early this evening 
will be over southwest Montana. For Thursday afternoon there will be 
a few thunderstorms except at kctb and the best threat for 
thunderstorms at the taf sites will be at klwt. Winds are another 
forecast problem as guidance differs quite a bit on both wind speeds 
and directions. Hence confidence in forecast winds in the tafs is 
lower than average. Blank 


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Hydrology...widespread rain and high elevation snow will 
develop tonight along the rocky mtn front and continue through 
Thursday morning with additional precipitation expected Thursday 
and Thursday night. Heaviest precipitation is expected late 
tonight through Thursday morning with precipitation amounts locally 
exceeding an inch and a half along the Continental Divide. Snow 
levels should lower enough to lessen the impact of moderate 
precipitation on the remaining mtn snowpack in these areas, however 
local streams and rivers could see delayed rises through the 
upcoming weekend. Persons living near or planning activities near 
the mentioned areas during the Holiday weekend should be alert for 
Rising River levels and increased stream flows. 


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Previous discussion... 
/issued 555 PM MDT Wed may 22 2013/ 


Tonight through Friday...the airmass is slightly unstable and some 
good shear is available from southwest Montana up towards Lewis And 
Clark County. Scattered showers and thunderstorms are expected into 
early evening. The main threat from these thunderstorms are strong 
winds...hail should remain small. A closed upper level low will 
rotate over the Pacific northwest tonight and bring a period of 
widespread precipitation centered over the northern rockies through 
Friday morning. A jet will move through the flow aloft and develop 
strong diffluence over central and north central Montana tonight 
into Thursday morning. Snow levels show most of the snow to be above 
6000 feet and the current watch will be changed to a Winter Weather 
Advisory. Elsewhere, all but the northwest zones will be slightly 
unstable Thursday and the extreme southwest zones will be the most 
unstable. The jet aloft will move across the zones again Thursday 
afternoon, and the pattern should once again develop strong 
diffluence over the zones. Winds will switch from the southeast to 
southwest Thursday night and hasten the end of precip east of The 
Rockies Friday...although higher elevations along The Divide will 
remain very moist. Zelzer 


Friday night through Wednesday...the period begins with a slowly 
filling upper low over British Columbia. Southwest flow aloft 
associated with this feature will continue to bring moisture and 
instability in the form of scattered thunderstorms to the area 
Friday night. Generally drier conditions will return Saturday though 
afternoon isolated thunderstorms will remain as the flow aloft 
becomes more southerly. By Sunday, southwest flow aloft strengthens 
as an upper trof approaches the West Coast. The airmass remains 
moist and instability increases during the afternoon with scattered 
thunderstorms the result. The medium range models differ in their 
handling of quantitative precipitation forecast with the European being the wetter model. Model 
confidence is low for Memorial Day. The GFS brings the upper trof to 
the Pacific northwest and develops widespread precipitation. The 
European model, on the other hand, develops weak ridging over the 
area and dry conditions. Given the progressive nature of the GFS 
solution, have leaned toward the wetter outcome for Memorial Day. 
Continued southwest flow aloft Tuesday and Wednesday ahead of a West 
Coast upper trof will keep scattered showers and thunderstorms in 
the picture. Temperatures will remain above seasonal averages 
through the period. 


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Preliminary point temps/pops... 
gtf 41 55 40 64 / 100 70 70 40 
ctb 40 54 38 62 / 100 100 70 50 
hln 40 58 39 63 / 100 70 70 40 
bzn 42 63 37 66 / 100 60 60 30 
wey 38 61 34 59 / 60 30 40 10 
dln 38 59 35 62 / 100 50 60 30 
hvr 49 68 45 69 / 30 60 80 70 
lwt 45 63 41 65 / 50 60 90 50 


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Tfx watches/warnings/advisories... 


Winter Weather Advisory from midnight tonight to noon MDT Friday 
for elevations above 5500 feet for northern Rocky Mountain 
front...southern Rocky Mountain front. 


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