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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Marquette Michigan 
514 am EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 513 am EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 


The surface high that was directly overhead on Tuesday...will push from 
the eastern County Warning Area and north lower Michigan this morning to Central Lake Huron 
and far S Ontario by 00z. Expect good mixing today...to around 800mb 
will help dew points fall into the middle to upper 30s over the eastern 
fire zones. On a positive note...winds should not be quite as strong 
as was expected just 24 hours ago...with gusts staying around 18kts or 
less. The strongest winds will likely be over the east /with a 
slightly tighter pressure gradient/ and over the favored downslope 
areas. Temperatures should be able to climb into the 70s today. With 
the lack of a Lake Superior lake breeze today...middle and even upper 
70s look reasonable near much of Lake Superior. Isq will be the cool 
spot...topping out in the middle 60s /after the cool morning in the 30s 
under a clear sky with light winds/. 


Look for increased moisture over the far west...with dew points rising 
into the upper 40s and 50s by middle/late afternoon. Afternoon heating 
and a nearing surface trough stretching from NE Ontario should help pop 
a few showers and thunderstorms across north Minnesota by late afternoon. 
Assisted by a series of disturbances in the northwest flow aloft...expect 
storm motion to push them across Lake Superior and to western Upper 
Michigan mainly after midnight. With the loss of daytime heating only 
scattered showers and isolated ts are anticipated. Fog should 
quickly develop over far West Lake Superior through after midnight. 
With the warm humid air moving in...lows in the 50s should be 
common...with a few middle to upper 40s far east. 


Long term...(wednesday night through tuesday) 
issued at 409 PM EDT Tuesday Jun 18 2013 


Area will be under northwest flow aloft to start the period as the 
upper Great Lakes is on the eastern side of the ridge over the 
northern plains and upper Mississippi Valley. A weak shortwave will 
be sliding across Northeast Lake Superior on Wednesday night...while 
a surface trough drops southeast across the County Warning Area during the overnight 
period. There will likely be some showers and a few thunderstorms 
with this trough on Wednesday night and will follow a general 
consensus for the timing of the probability of precipitation as it moves in. 


This front looks to stall across Upper Michigan on Thursday and 
will combine with developing lake breezes to produce afternoon 
showers and thunderstorms. The strength of these thunderstorms will 
depend on the amount of diurnal heating...increasing southerly 
flow with a developing warm front on the boundary...and the arrival 
of the another weak shortwave during the late afternoon and 
evening. Ml cape values of 500-1000 j/kg over the western 2/3rds 
of the County Warning Area and 0-6km bulk shear values around 30kts supports 
thunderstorms and some tilting of the updrafts. Heavy rain and 
small hail will be the primary threats...as ncape values around .1 
should keep any hail from growing too large. Will continue to 
highlight the highest probability of precipitation over the interior west/central...closest 
to Lake Superior lake breeze and then follow the storm motion to the 
southeast. 


Thursday night through the weekend is shaping up to be a fairly 
active pattern for thunderstorms in the upper Mississippi Valley 
and upper Great Lakes region. This is due to the upper ridge 
gradually shifting east into the upper Great Lakes. 
Meanwhile...weak surface low will remain fairly stationary over the 
central/northern plains. From this low...a warm front will looks to 
setup from the stalled trough on Thursday and remain located around 
the upper Great Lakes region through the weekend. Looking at this 
large scale pattern...it is very conducive periods of showers and 
potentially strong thunderstorms. But trying to pin down the 
exact location and timing is difficult due to the variability of the 
shortwaves and position of the warm front. Instability will 
gradually grow from Friday into the weekend...as persistent 
southwesterly flow ahead of the low pulls plenty of Gulf moisture 
into the area. Using ml cape values to remove some of the low 
level moist biases in the models for Friday into the weekend...there 
are still some decent values for u.P. Standards. Friday they look to 
peak in the 750-1500 j/kg range over the west and then grow to 
1500-2500 j/kg for Sat/sun depending on the model. The GFS is the 
most aggressive on the northward extent of the warm front...while 
the Gem/European model (ecmwf) try to keep the front a touch south of the area. It 
will probably be a variety of thunderstorm types during that period. 
Convective complexes moving east /via forward prop corfidi vectors/ 
around the ridge will likely be the main threat...but with the 
instability present and limited inhibition...diurnal thunderstorms 
will also be possible. The only concerns would be if the ridge and 
warm front build far enough north to slide most of the thunderstorm 
complexes north of Upper Michigan or the more likely scenario of it 
becoming hung up south of the area /especially as convection holds 
them south/. With the growing confidence...will add a mention of 
strong thunderstorms for the weekend in both the severe weather potential statement and ehwo. Heavy 
rain is also possible during this period with the thunderstorms...as 
precipitable water values rise above 1.5 inches which is well above the 75th 
percentile for climatology for this area. 


It will be pretty humid for Friday into the weekend /dewpoints in 
the upper 50s and 60s/ and the temperatures will depend on the 
positioning of the warm front. Will continue to show temperatures in the 
middle 70s to lower 80s for most locations...with the warmest values 
near the Wisconsin border. If the GFS ends up being correct...would 
have to bump temperatures up well into the 80s for the end of the weekend. 


Uncertainty really grows heading into Monday/Tuesday...as a lot 
depends on the weekend weather. The general idea from the models is 
that the ridge breaks down and the area will be under zonal flow 
aloft. This will continue to bring waves across the area and keep 
the thunderstorm potential in place for that period. At this 
time...models are indicating a cold front dropping south out of 
Canada on Wednesday...which may bring an end to the warm/humid 
weather. 


Finally...will continue to mention patchy fog developing on Lake 
Superior on Wednesday night and then continuing into early next 
week. Will likely need to expand it to areas or even dense fog as it 
nears. Also...added a mention of fog over Lake Michigan nearshore 
areas starting late Thursday night as the precipitation and higher 
dewpoints start to affect that area. 
&& 


Aviation...(for the 06z tafs through 06z Wednesday night) 
issued at 1203 am EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 


With high pressure in control...VFR conditions expected to continue 
through the period. 
&& 


Marine...(for the 4 am Lake Superior forecast issuance) 
issued at 455 am EDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 


Winds should remain below 25kts through the period...with relatively 
low waves. The main threat will be strong winds/hail/lightning with 
any thunderstorms moving across Lake Superior from late tonight 
through the weekend and beyond...and patchy to areas of fog that 
develop as a result of increased moisture and shower activity. 


High pressure centered over Lake Huron will continue to sink 
southeastward...as a low over northern Ontario swings into Quebec. A 
trough extending from the Canadian low will drift across Lake 
Superior late tonight into Thursday. The trough should strengthen 
Thursday night through Saturday...as high pressure pushes across 
Ontario...and an elongated area of low pressure organizes across the 
northern and Central Plains. The trough will further deepen over 
Lake Superior on Sunday as the main low pushes northward through the 
Dakotas and into south central Canada. 
&& 


MQT watches/warnings/advisories... 
Upper Michigan... 
none. 
Lake Superior... 
none. 
Lake Michigan... 
none. 
&& 


$$ 


Short term...kf 
long term...srf 
aviation...07 
marine...kf