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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen Minnesota 
1256 PM CDT Tuesday may 21 2013 


Short term...(this evening through wednesday) 
issued at 1235 PM CDT Tuesday may 21 2013 


Latest water vapor imagery shows our bottled up and stagnant upper 
air pattern still in place... with the cutoff low lingering in our 
area and another cutoff off the northwest coast. Things are 
starting to slowly move eastward with the pattern Delaware-amplifying 
some over the upcoming 24 hours or so. Rain showers currently across the 
area is taking advantage of what meager instability there is along 
with low level forcing arising from the stationary front laced 
across the center of the forecast area. More widespread light precipitation 
can be found in the middle-level deformation and associated area of 
frontogenesis over the north central and northwest County warning forecast area. With 
things slowly shifting east through Wednesday... the general look 
of activity currently over the area will shift along with the 
overall large scale pattern... meaning showers will persist 
through the period... with some diurnal enhancement in the pseudo- 
warm sector again on Wednesday... although it will be pretty much 
east of US at that time. Precipitation north/west of the surface and upper 
low will remain fairly consistent over time... along with the 
overcast skies. Don/T expect things to dry out or clouds to exit 
until we move beyond tomorrow/S daytime hours. 


&& 


Long term...(wednesday through monday) 
issued at 328 am CDT Tuesday may 21 2013 


Cloudy...cool...and scattered to numerous light rain showers or 
sprinkles are on tap Wednesday with the low still taking its time 
to move across the forecast area. Really think by Tuesday night 
the instability will be shoved far enough to the west that we 
should just be dealing with the light showers and no thunder. We 
are dry by early Thursday morning...but clouds should be slower to 
clear. No major forecast changes in the Thursday-Friday time 
frame. Went just a bit cooler with temperatures during this time. 
The guidance trended that way...but simply think it is more to do 
with slight changes in the timing of showers during the day on 
Wednesday and clearing of clouds late Thursday night. This should 
set the stage for a very cool Friday morning. Upper 30s are 
certainly within reason across central Minnesota and west central WI with 
the clouds moving out and that high moving in. 


Medium to long range guidance continues to forecast troughs along 
both west/east coasts and a ridge over the central states and a 
closed anticyclone through the weekend into early next 
week. Southerly flow ahead of the trough and surface low/warm front 
development should focus precipitation over the Central Plains late in 
the weekend and into the northern plains/mid-upper MS valley/Great 
Lakes early next week where convection is likely as indicated in 
the gefs/European model (ecmwf) ensemble members and GFS runs. There are a lot of 
probability of precipitation in the extended...but it is difficult to remove them...even 
given we have fairly low confidence in the timing and placement 
of the showers and thunderstorms late this weekend and early next 
week. Here's why its difficult to remove probability of precipitation. Climatology is 
right around 25% for a 24 pop forecast this time of year. The 
21.00z GFS has a longwave trough approaching from the west and 
southwest flow here and the 21.00z European model (ecmwf) is less amplified and 
even quasi zonal. Both of these patterns would be fairly active 
and would certainly warrant keeping probability of precipitation at least at the 
muted/averaged values of climatology. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Wednesday afternoon) 
issued at 1235 PM CDT Tuesday may 21 2013 


Slowly moving surface and upper level lows will drift east through 
the forecast period... meaning a continuation of the conditions 
we/ve seen for the past few days. Scattered rain showers can be expected 
over much of the area this afternoon into this evening... with a 
diurnal waning trend later in the evening. However... with the low 
sliding east we will find more of the forecast area under the 
influence of deeper moisture and persistent/weak forcing later 
tonight into Wednesday. Generally overcast conditions with MVFR 
ceilings will prevail... with a return to IFR ceilings and some 
LIFR tonight. Visibilities look to mainly be VFR... although more 
widespread MVFR will occur later tonight into Wednesday morning as 
ceilings lower and some persistent light rain or drizzle occurs 
across much of the area. Winds will be problematic for locations 
near the stationary front... including kmsp... with shifts of 
around 180 degrees in direction either side of the boundary... 
which will drift a bit north and south through early evening. 
Winds will shift and become predominantly north/northeast later 
this evening as the surface low shifts to the east. 




Kmsp...have decent confidence in the overall trends in the taf... 
but lower confidence in some of the details. Ceilings could wind 
up lower than forecast from late evening through the overnight 
hours when the boundary finally gets permanently south of the 
area. Wind direction is tricky this afternoon into early evening 
with the front essentially stalled over the area. Went close to 
some of the high resolution model guidance which suggests the 
current north winds will shift back to the southwest/west for a 
time this afternoon before eventually swinging back to the north 
for good this evening. Visibilities could certainly be lower for 
brief periods of time this afternoon and evening with rain showers... and 
there is some potential for longer duration MVFR visibilities 
overnight into Wednesday as lower ceilings return. 


/Outlook for kmsp/ 
Wednesday night...MVFR ceilings possible early... otherwise VFR 
conditions expected. Northeast wind 10 to 15 knots. 
Thursday...VFR conditions expected. Northeast wind 5 to 15 knots. 
Thursday night...VFR conditions expected. East wind less than 10 
knots becoming southeast. 
Friday and Friday night...VFR conditions expected. Southeast wind 5 to 
15 knots. 
Saturday...MVFR ceilings and visibilities possible with a chance 
of showers and thunderstorms. Southeast wind 10 to 20 knots. 


&& 


Mpx watches/warnings/advisories... 
Minnesota...none. 
WI...none. 
&& 


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Short term... 
long term...clf 
aviation...