Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen Minnesota 1129 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 Short term...(this evening through sunday) issued at 315 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 Large area of surface low pressure over eastern portion of northern rockies continues to slowly become better organized into tonight. Warm frontal boundary associated with same will again be the catalyst for any organized shower and thunderstorm activity tonight into Sunday. Area of convection already firing up along northern edge of this boundary as seen on infrared satellite imagery. Conditions should remain dry over much of the forecast area this evening...with possible development of showers and isolated thunder after midnight mainly southwest of a line from Morris to Olivia to Owatonna. Surface forcing for this activity is minimal...per weak Theta-E advection. Similarly...upper air support per gfs40 250mb divergence is also quite lacking...save strong divergence couplet above far southwest Minnesota near 26/12z. So at this juncture looks like main threat for any organized overnight into middle morning convective activity will emanate from mesoscale convective system generated tonight over central sodak...and progression of same southeast into SW Minnesota...and portions of south central Minnesota and much of northern half of Iowa. Much of the rest of the daylight hours should be dry...minus far west central Minnesota...where late Sunday afternoon convection could easily fire near the warm frontal boundary...and where best moisture transport vectors are observed. Gradient will tighten a tad further by late Sunday morning over the region...guaranteeing another day of moderate southeast flow. High temperatures on Sunday will be similar to today's...as thick strato-cumulus continues to blanket much of the forecast area. Long term...(sunday night through saturday) issued at 315 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 A wet long term forecast period is shaping up for next week...as the forecast area remains downstream of a deepening western Continental U.S. Middle/upper trough. While there will be dry windows of time here and there...the majority of model solutions indicate the potential for widespread total rainfall amounts of two to four inches between Sunday night and next Saturday. The Sunday night into Monday morning time frame is looking like it should be one of those windows where most of the forecast area should remain dry...in between detectable shortwaves and in the absence of a notable forcing mechanism. That all changes on Monday however...as shown by the GFS and European model (ecmwf)...which continue to bring a decent middle level shortwave across the area for the Memorial Day Holiday. The NAM features it as well...but is a tad slower...and is shifted slightly to later Monday into Tuesday. Models continue to portray an impressively diffluent upper level thickness pattern during this time frame. With plenty of moisture funneling north from the Gulf /as shown by forecast precipitable water values 200 percent of normal on Monday night/ the potential for a good soaking rainfall on Monday and Monday night with widespread 1 to 2 inch amounts is certainly quite possible. The next time frame for notable precipitation is expected to arrive on late Tuesday into Wednesday...as a warm front lifts north into the forecast area...and is again supported by a broad upper level diffluent pattern. In addition to the potential for heavy rainfall...a threat for organized severe weather will enter the picture...especially on Thursday and Friday as the surface low nears the area and deep layer shear increases. In fact...the cips analogs for severe weather indicate there are several matches to historical outbreak events...including June 17th of 2010. && Aviation...(for the 06z tafs through 06z Sunday night) issued at 1105 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 While krwf-kaxn-kstc have all gone down to MVFR...eastern sites have yet to drop down. Was thinking kmsp would have dropped down to MVFR by this point...what with sites just west and S having gone that low...but it should be within the first few hours of the 26/06z taf that conds drop to MVFR. Ceilings then remain at MVFR through most of the day...then a few breaks in the lower /2000-3000 feet/ deck scatter out to allow for VFR conds before MVFR ceilings fill back into the area. Only site to be hit hard with precipitation in this issuance is krwf...which is in closest proximity to the lingering surface fnt and its associated convection this morning. Showers/thunderstorms will gradually spread from southwestern Minnesota into the rest of central-southern Minnesota through the day today...then slowly into western WI tonight into early Monday. Conds to gradually deteriorate as precipitation moves in...but timing issues among the short-term models do not give a lot of confidence at this time. Winds to remain between 120-140 with speeds at or above 10 knots...including frequent gusts above 20 knots during the day tmrw. Kmsp...VFR conds to start will eventually drop below MVFR levels around 09z...then stay there through much of the day. Am not expecting ceilings to drop below 2 kft. Ceilings may even rise above 3 kft earlier than advertised...but confidence is high that MVFR ceilings return by late evening. Precipitation looks to hold off to the SW of the terminal through the day...then precipitation slowly moves into the area during the evening hours. Will start off the precipitation light then bring in heavier precipitation tmrw night...which lines up with model forecasts of having heavier and more widespread tmrw night rather than during the day. Could easily have thunderstorms...but have started things more optimistically and will allow later taf issuances see how conditions develop. /Outlook for kmsp/ Monday...chance MVFR or lower ceilings. Rain showers/thunderstorms and rain likely. Winds southeast 10-15 kts. Tuesday...chance MVFR or lower ceilings. Chance shra/tsra. Winds south-southeast 5-10 kts. Wednesday...chance MVFR or lower ceilings. Chance shra/tsra. Winds S 5-10 kts. && Mpx watches/warnings/advisories... Minnesota...none. WI...none. && $$ Short term...ajz long term...ls aviation...jpc