Scientific Forecaster Discussion

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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville Illinois 
315 PM CDT Tuesday may 21 2013 


Discussion... 
1228 PM CDT 


Morning severe weather potential statement update was sent after the 1630z Storm Prediction Center day one outlook was 
received...in anticipation that the local area would be pulled 
from the slight risk. This is in fact what occurred...as models 
are showing less potential for the areas of greatest instability 
to be aligned with deep layer shear that would be supportive of 
organized convection. 


Latest visible satellite imagery is still showing quite a wide area 
with little cumulus development across Illinois as you get farther away from 
the upper low positioned over the eastern Dakotas. Model forecast 
soundings are similar to latest acars profiles in showing a weak 
cap still in place between 850-800 mb or so...and then another 
warm layer above 500 mb that might limit vertical development. 
Latest infrared/WV image suggests the presence of a weak shortwave 
lifting across eastern Iowa but also points to the best moisture 
convergence being focused across the southern Midwest where 
thunderstorm clusters have already developed. By tonight...diurnal 
heating will be less favorable but better shortwave energy...surface 
and midlevel moisture...and cooler temperatures aloft will support 
an increased chance of thunderstorms and rain ahead of an approaching cold front. 


Lenning 


//prev discussion... 
321 am CDT 


Today through tonight... 
main concern for today revolves around the potential for severe 
weather...mainly along and east of a Pontiac to Chicago line. 


Line of showers and thunderstorms from early this morning continues 
to push east...stretching from lower Michigan south through southern 
in. This area of convection had brought severe weather to portions 
of northern Illinois last evening...associated with a tongue of 
anomalously high moisture. Precipitable water values within this channel of 
moisture hovered between 1.2-1.6" as some drying was noted across 
northern Missouri/southern Iowa in the wake of the evenings 
convection. Temperatures should hold up early this morning in the middle/upper 
60s. Then the focus turns towards timing of convection and the 
intensify...possibly severe weather again. 


Guidance indicates another cap will develop and hold through most of 
the morning timeframe...then the question is when this cap will 
dissolve. Local guidance suggests the more favored zone for the 
strongest instability will be along and east of a Pontiac to Gary 
line...where lapse rates will steepen quickly by midday/afternoon. 
The overall system that has produced the widespread severe weather 
remains negatively tilted...which this type of a setup coupled with 
instability and abnormally high moisture...has a tendency to lead to 
severe weather occurrence. The challenge is trying to pin down the 
timing/placement...and once again the lack of a trigger. A weak lobe 
of vorticity does appear to be prognosticated to slide north through 
southcentral Illinois during the afternoon hours...which may aid in initiation 
of convection across the southeastern County warning forecast area during the afternoon/evening 
hours. Prognosticated wind fields are more uniform...which should limit The 
Hazards to a wind/hail threat. Expect any convection to form into a 
line segments shortly after generation. 


Temperatures will be difficult to pindown for this afternoon as well. Given the 
recent rainfall...coupled with slightly cooler air aloft to keep 
temperatures closer to the low 80s for much of the County warning forecast area. The far southeast 
County warning forecast area may touch the middle 80s. 


The Channel of moisture will continue to hover across the County warning forecast area 
through the overnight hours...as dew points remain in the low/middle 
60s. Have maintained likely probability of precipitation through the overnight hours...with a 
continued thunderstorms mentioned. Feel that as time moves forward 
this will be able to be fine tuned...and possibly limit convection 
to 
the eastern County warning forecast area. 


Confidence in severe weather initiation...low/medium. 




Wednesday through Thursday... 
500mb trough axis finally arrives across overhead...however remains 
in a negatively tilted state. It appears instability will be waining 
a bit throughout the day...so have trimmed back to a slight chance of 
thunder. This seems reasonable given the abundance of clouds. Temperatures 
will be much cooler Wednesday...mainly in the middle 70s. For Thursday the 500mb 
vorticity slows across the County warning forecast area...with cooler air slowly filtering into 
the near surface environment. Winds will slowly turn northerly behind a 
frontal boundary...then northeasterly early Thursday. This will allow 
the marine environment to filter into far northeast Illinois...keeping 
temperatures in the upper 50s Thursday. Anti-cyclonic flow is prognosticated to arrive 
across the region Thursday aftn/eve...bringing an end to the precipitation. 


Confidence...medium/high. 


Friday through Monday... 
ensembles have continued to suggest the departing 500mb trough will 
bump up against a western Atlantic ridge. This will slow the 
eastward progression of the trough...which should hold the 
anti-cyclonic flow across the Great Lakes region through Friday night with 
dry weather. Considerable differences on precipitation returning to the 
region amongst guidance for Sat/Sat night...which is most likely a 
reflection of the slowing trend and the middle-level ridge that is 
prognosticated to build across the central Continental U.S. Into the Canadian prairies 
Sat/sun. Much cooler air will remain in place for the start of the 
extended...as temperatures struggle to reach the middle/upper 60s...and for 
areas adjacent to Lake Michigan...temperatures may actually struggle to 
reach the upper 50s as the cooler marine environment flows inland from 
a northeast wind. Then temperatures will begin to warm for the weekend into 
the upper 60s to near 70 degree. Then by early next week temperatures should 
steadily warm into the low 70s. Have held onto mention of slight chance 
probability of precipitation in the later periods of the extended...however it is possible 
that as heights increase aloft that diffluent flow will inhibit the 
precipitation potential. Could see things trending drier for the final few 
periods of the extended. 


Confidence...medium/high. 


Beachler 


&& 


Aviation... 


//Ord and mdw concerns...updated 20z... 


* strong gusty south to southwest winds through 00z. 


* Slight chance thunderstorms and rain this afternoon and evening. 


* Thunderstorms and rain likely after midnight. 


Paw 


//discussion...updated 18z... 


In the wake of last nights showers and storms...things have 
stabilized for now. Expect mostly clear skies through the morning 
hours. By middle day expect atmosphere to begin to destabilize again 
but dont see any real focus for thunderstorms to develop. 
Scattered thunderstorms are possible in the afternoon and evening 
but dont have enough confidence in timing or location to put 
thunder in the tafs at this time. Wave rounding the base of the 
plains trough over eastern nm this morning will lift northeast 
toward Illinois late tonight. This should be the focus for more 
widespread showers and thunderstorms late tonight into Wednesday 
morning. 


South winds will be increasing this morning and turning SW this 
afternoon. Winds will diminish and gustiness will end this 
evening. Winds will become light and variable late tonight as weak 
low pressure moves overhead. 


Allsopp 


//Ord and mdw confidence...updated 20z... 


* high confidence in wind trend. 


* Low confidence in thunderstorms this afternoon and early 
evening. 


* Medium-high confidence in thunderstorms after midnight. 


Paw 


//outlook for Ord/mdw for 00z Thursday-12z Tuesday...updated 12z... 


Wednesday night...chance rain showers. Possible MVFR. 


Thursday...chance rain showers in the morning. VFR afternoon. 


Friday...VFR. 


Saturday - Monday...slight chance thunderstorms and rain. 


Allsopp 


&& 


Marine... 
314 PM CDT 


Low pressure currently over southern Minnesota and central Wisconsin 
will weaken and drift over the western Great Lakes tonight. The 
lows cold front will pass south of the lake tonight into tomorrow. 
Winds will diminish this evening therefore thinking the small craft 
will be allowed to expire this evening as well. 


As the low shifts east over the New England coast...northwest to 
north gales will spread south across the lake. Thinking gales will 
develop over the northern end of the lake late Wednesday 
night...spread across down the lake on Thursday...then diminish 
Thursday evening. Issued a gale watch as the exact timing and 
strength of the gales is uncertain at this time. Model soundings 
indicate there will be a strong cap over the lake which may limit 
mixing. That being said guidance indicates 40+ knots winds will be 
only 1200 feet above the surface so thinking gales are certainly 
possible. 


A ridge of high pressure spreads over the lake Friday morning with 
north winds diminishing and becoming east on Saturday. 


Jee 


&& 


Lot watches/warnings/advisories... 
Illinois...none. 
In...none. 
Lm...Small Craft Advisory...nearshore waters 
until 10 PM Tuesday. 


Gale watch...lmz740-lmz741-lmz742-lmz743-lmz744-lmz745...10 am 
Thursday to 9 PM Thursday. 


Gale watch...lmz080-lmz669-lmz671-lmz673-lmz675-lmz777-lmz779- 
lmz870-lmz872-lmz874-lmz876-lmz878...3 am Thursday to 9 PM 
Thursday. 


Gale watch...lmz261-lmz362-lmz364-lmz366-lmz563-lmz565-lmz567- 
lmz868...3 am Thursday to 7 PM Thursday. 


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