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Area forecast discussion...updated 
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville Illinois 
710 PM CDT sun may 19 2013 


Mesoscale discussion... 
709 PM CDT 


Continuing to monitor strong convection in northwest Illinois and 
environmental trends ahead of it. There is a likelihood for some 
of this to reach the northwestern and western forecast area...but 
severe potential may be limited. 


The convection that developed near the Mississippi River late this 
afternoon was and continues to be on the front edge of an 
increasing middle-level jet. This is also on a surface warm front 
and high T/dew point tongue with associated large cape of 3500+ j/kg 
verified by the 00z dvn radiosonde observation data. Radar and observation trends 
show that the storm area near Galesburg has an organized structure 
and is moving more east-northeast and deviant from the mean steering 
flow...with Galesburg having gusted to 39 knots. Bunkers motion 
vectors indicate this should continue to move northeast likely 
around 30 knots and be the primary storm area that could impact 
western LaSalle/Lee/Ogle/Winnebago counties between 830 and 1100 
PM. Deep layer shear of around 40 knots should increase to 50-55 knots 
by late evening and support organized and regenerating storms in northwest 
Illinois...which is supported by a portion of the convective allowing 
guidance. These look to maintain at least a wind and hail threat 
into the middle to late evening and a watch may be needed...per Storm Prediction Center 
sels mesoscale discussion. 


Mtf/krein 


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Discussion... 


308 PM...convective/precip potential remains the main forecast 
concern/challenge...through middle week. 


Thunderstorms that developed across western Illinois late this morning 
dissipated as they moved northeast into a very capped atmosphere 
while thunderstorms that developed a bit further north and are now 
moving across far southern WI appear to be associated with a wave 
moving across Iowa. This activity has also struggled to shift east 
due to the capped environment. This wave lifts north this evening 
and it appears any additional thunderstorms will spread across the 
area later this evening and more likely overnight from convection 
firing across the plains. Short term guidance continues to suggest 
additional development across northern Missouri late this 
afternoon which would arrive in the western County Warning Area by sunset but its 
difficult to see what wave would help kick off this activity but 
have maintained low chance probability of precipitation through middle evening across the 
western County Warning Area. 


With the expectation that overnight convection will be spreading 
northeast and dissipating Monday morning...this should allow for a 
period of dry conditions into early Monday afternoon. Cap Monday 
afternoon is much weaker than today and even appears to be gone 
across western areas by middle/late afternoon. Little change to the 
airmass over the next 24 hours...perhaps dewpoints slightly higher 
thus while thunderstorm coverage/timing remains uncertain... 
anything that develops will have the potential to become severe 
with damaging winds the main threat and large hail the secondary 
threat. 


From Monday night through Wednesday morning...there again appears 
to be some consensus...especially with the European model (ecmwf)/Gem for a series 
of waves to move across the western/southern lakes region as the 
upper low slowly shifts east through midweek and eventually opens 
into a trough with a period of thunderstorms/heavy rain Monday 
night into Tuesday morning and the again Tuesday night into 
Wednesday morning. With precipitable water values approaching 1.5 
inches and plenty of level moisture...locally heavy...perhaps even 
torrential rainfall will be possible. Storm total model quantitative precipitation forecast 
amounts are still somewhat low ranging in the 1 to 2 inches but 
should convection train over the same areas...locally higher 
amounts are certainly possible. The main surface low moves east 
across the southern lakes Wednesday into Wednesday night with a 
trailing cold front pushing south across the area. This will usher 
in much cooler and drier conditions for end of the week. 


Highs today have reached in the middle/upper 80s most locations with 
several locations tagging 90 across the western County Warning Area. Depending on 
clouds and convective trends...upper 80s/lower 90s look reasonable 
again for Monday. Southerly winds should be strong enough to 
prevent any lake cooling but outflow from any thunderstorms could 
turn winds onshore with much cooler temperatures. Highs on Tuesday 
still potentially into the 80s but again dependent on cloud cover/ 
precipitation trends. Cms 


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Aviation... 


//Ord and mdw concerns...updated 00z... 


* a lake breeze with a wind shift to easterly in close proximity 
to both airports through 02z. 
* Chance of thunderstorms and rain late tonight and through all of Monday...with the 
most favored times highlighted in the tafs. 
* Gusty south winds through Monday. 




//Discussion...updated 00z... 


A complex aviation forecast with chances of thunderstorms for much 
of Monday and Tuesday. Initially...a lake breeze which developed 
earlier had retreated due to a warm front influence...but now has 
pushed back. Per coordination with Ord tower this is basically 
sitting over the airfield and should through 01z or so. Wind gusts 
at times will be between 10 to 15 knots with speeds fluctuating 
between 100 and 170 degrees. This feature should remain just east 
of mdw. The only other wind note for tonight is that aloft a low- 
level jet will Orient itself over the area with SW winds of 35-40 
knots above 1500 feet. This does not look to present true low level wind shear...but 
may be close...namely at rfd. 


As for convection...ongoing storms in western Illinois have a favorable 
environment and radar trends to evolve northeast into part of the 
far western tracon area and near rfd. Some of these could have 
some gusty winds near rfd. The better chance for storms at 
chicagoland taf sites arrives on Monday and Monday 
night...although it is tough to time the best window. It is 
expected that the numerous storm complexs over the plains/MO/IA 
will fade late tonight into the morning as they had east...but the 
remnants could bring scattered rain showers/thunderstorms and rain to the area in the morning. 
Monday will present less of a cap in the atmosphere so at least 
scattered convection will probably be seen in northern Illinois by late 
afternoon/eve. 


With a tighter pressure gradient and continued pressure falls 
across the area on Monday...southerly winds should see gusts to 
the 25 knots ballpark during the late morning and afternoon across 
all taf sites. 




//Ord and mdw confidence...updated 00z... 


* high confidence that the lake breeze will remain over/very 
close to Ord through 01z. Medium confidence on speeds. High 
confidence on wind trends after 02z. 
* Medium confidence on morning rain showers chances. 
* Medium confidence in at least having convection in the region on 
Monday afternoon and evening but low confidence on specific timing. 




//Outlook for Ord/mdw for 12z Tuesday-12z Sunday...updated 00z... 


Tuesday...periods of thunderstorms and rain. Gusty SW winds. 
Wednesday...likely thunderstorms and rain during the day. Chance during the night. 
Potential for MVFR ceilings. 
Thursday...chance of rain showers. 
Friday...VFR likely. Gusty NE winds. 
Saturday...chance of thunderstorms and rain during the night. 


Mtf 


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Marine... 
159 PM CDT 


The main weather maker for the next few days will be the surface 
low...currently across the plains. This storm system is expected to 
move east-northeastward towards the middle Missouri Valley tonight into 
Monday morning. As it does so...an associated surface warm 
front...extending eastward across northern Illinois and 
Indiana...will move northward across at the southern half to two 
thirds of the lake later tonight and on Monday. In the wake of this 
front...the winds will shift more southerly and should increase up 
to 15 to 25 knots by Monday. However...to the north of this 
front...winds will primarily remain easterly at around the same 
magnitude. 


The other concern will be the threat for periods of dense marine fog 
later tonight and into at least the first part of the week. As 
this warm front lifts over the lake...much higher dew points will 
move over the relatively cold water...possibly resulting in some fog 
development. 


It appears that the surface low will slowly move eastward across the 
middle Mississippi Valley and to near Southern Lake Michigan by middle 
week and then continue eastward across the lower Great Lakes region 
later in the week. This should allow warm front to shift back 
southward with time during the week. During this time...the wind 
directions will primarily become east northeastward 15 to 25 knots 
north of the front. Later in the week...as the surface 
low passes east of Lake Michigan...the winds still look to be rather 
Stout up to 30 knots out of the north for a period as a good area of 
high pressure builds eastward across Ontario and the upper Great 
Lakes region. 


Kjb 


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Lot watches/warnings/advisories... 
Illinois...none. 
In...none. 
Lm...none. 
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