Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Chicago/Romeoville Illinois 
1003 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013 


Discussion... 


252 PM...multiple forecast concerns and challenges continue 
through the middle of next week including severe potential Sunday 
afternoon through Monday night...heavy rain potential especially 
Monday night through Tuesday night along with associated cloud 
cover...winds off the Lake/Lake breezes and their affects on 
temperatures. 


In the short term...low levels are now quite moist with dewpoints 
generally in the lower 60s west of the lake breeze. Broken to at 
times overcast cumulus field developed earlier this morning which 
helped but the brakes on temperatures making it into the lower 80s... 
though still a few locations tagging 80. Lack of instability 
however has limited shower development with isolated showers now 
developing south of the Kankakee River. Other than an isolated 
sprinkle/shower...dry weather expected through Sunday morning. 
With continued light winds and clearing skies as the cumulus dissipate 
this evening...expect at least some patchy fog development as 
temperatures cool into the lower 60s dewpoints. Though confidence 
regarding fog development is low. 


Convective trends/potential from Sunday afternoon through Monday 
night are fairly uncertain. However there appears to be increasing 
consensus...both with timing and location...of a shortwave lifting 
northeast across Iowa into southern Wisconsin Sunday afternoon 
into Sunday evening with increasing chances for thunderstorms 
Sunday afternoon/evening. How far east this activity may spread 
appears to be the most uncertain and probability of precipitation may need to be adjusted 
as well as increased as trends emerge. With the upper ridge 
building across the region late tonight...expect high temperatures 
Sunday to be well into the middle/upper 80s with perhaps a few 
locations tagging 90. These temperatures combined with dewpoints creeping 
into the upper 60s...perhaps even 70 in some locations...will 
provide plenty of instability if thunderstorms are able to spread 
into the County Warning Area. 


As time GOES on...confidence decreases regarding convective 
trends as timing differences and locations of various waves then 
impact future potential convective time periods. With enough 
sunshine and enough of a dry period midday...expect Monday could 
be as warm perhaps a few degrees warmer than Sunday with highs 
back in the middle/upper 80s. Also still looks breezy which could 
lower dewpoints some in the afternoon. Should convection be able 
to fire...atmosphere remains unstable and shear would support 
continued severe threat. 


As the upper low over the plains slowly spins east into the 
western lakes Tuesday and Wednesday...this seems to be the best 
timing for a more prolonged/continued heavy rain threat. Any of 
the storms that form through the middle of next week will have the 
potential to produce heavy rain...but waves of more widespread 
storms with heavy rain appear to be possible late Monday night 
into Tuesday and then again Tuesday night into Wednesday. 
Confidence regarding rainfall amounts remains low however with 
model quantitative precipitation forecast storm total amounts lower than 24 hours ago. Of 
course...this doesn/T downplay the potential for what could end up 
being several inches of rain in parts of the area by midweek... 
just adds to low confidence regarding location/amounts. 


Low temperatures appear to be rather warm in the 60s into Wednesday 
morning with highs potentially in the upper 70s/lower 80s both 
Tuesday and Wednesday though cloud cover/precipitation duration/amounts 
will determine just how warm temperatures are able to go. Lake breezes 
and outflows from convective waves will also make temperature 
forecasts difficult. As the main surface low passes east of the 
area Thursday/Thursday night...a cold front will pass through the 
region...ending the precipitation with much cooler and drier air expected 
to spread across the Great Lakes region into the beginning of the 
Holiday weekend. Cms 


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Aviation... 


//Ord and mdw concerns...updated 03z... 


* MVFR fog potential late tonight/early Sun morning. 
* South-southeast winds gusting to 15-20 knots Sun afternoon. 
* A chance for thunderstorms and rain sun evening. 


//Discussion...updated 00z... 


Low pressure over the Central Plains will develop slowly east and 
north through the first half of the week. A remnant stationary 
boundary across the area...coupled with the lake breeze 
initially...will keep winds east-southeast over Ord and mdw through tonight. 
Speeds should diminish quickly by middle-evening which coupled with clear 
skies and elevated low-level moisture will aid in another night 
of likely areas of MVFR fog. While some wind component generally 
does not favor fog this time of year at Ord and mdw 
climatologically...the temperatures should near the dew points regardless 
by overnight given the high dew points moving in. 


Sunday will see southeast to south-southeast winds increase with some gustiness in 
the afternoon. Modest to high instability will develop and should 
lead to a fairly widespread cumulus field. Focus for any storms looks to 
be to the west of the taf sites through middle afternoon...but by 
late in the day into the evening there is a general trend in model 
guidance to show steadily improving chances across northern Illinois. 
Any convection is favored to be mainly scattered tomorrow late 
afternoon into the evening. Could be a few gusty storms toward rfd. 


//Ord and mdw confidence...updated 03z... 


* medium confidence on MVFR visby late tonight but high confidence 
on timing if it occurs. 
* High confidence on wind trends on Sunday...as lake breeze should 
remain east during most and likely all of the afternoon. 
* Low confidence on thunder chances sun evening. 


//Outlook for Ord/mdw for 12z Monday-12z Saturday...updated 00z... 


Monday-Tuesday...likely periods of thunderstorms and rain in the region but with some 
if not more breaks as well. Still too early 
to refine more precise timing. Gusty south-southwest winds 
on Monday. 
Wednesday...likely thunderstorms and rain during the day with a chance of rain showers 
during the night. 
Thursday...chance of rain showers. 
Friday...VFR likely. 


Mtf 


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Marine... 
151 PM CDT 


A surface ridge of high pressure continues to build 
eastward across eastern Quebec and the northeastern Continental U.S. This 
afternoon. However...attention is quickly turning out west across 
the Central High plains...where an area of low pressure is taking 
shape this afternoon. This storm system is expected to move 
east-northeastward towards the middle Missouri Valley by Sunday 
evening. An associated surface warm front...extending eastward 
across the middle Mississippi Valley...will move northward across at 
least the southern half to two thirds of the lake Sunday night and 
Monday. Behind this front winds looks to increase out 
of the south in the 15 to 25 knots range Sunday night into Monday. 
However...to the north of this front...winds will primarily be 
more easterly. There is some uncertainty in how far north up the lake 
this warm front will reach. It is possible that it never reaches the 
northern third of the lake...which would result in easterly winds 
remaining in place there during the period. 


The other concern will be the threat for periods of dense marine fog 
Sunday night and into at least the first part of the coming week. As 
this warm front lifts over the lake...much higher dew points will 
move over the relatively cold water...possibly resulting in some 
fog development. 


It appears that the surface low will slowly move eastward across the 
middle Mississippi Valley through middle week and then across the southern 
lakes and the Ohio Valley later in the week. This should allow warm 
front to shift back southward with time during the week. During this 
time...the wind directions will primarily become east northeastward 
15 to 25 knots north of the front. Later in the week...as the surface 
low passes east of Lake Michigan...the winds look to be rather Stout 
up to 25 to possibly as high as 30 knots out of the north for a period 
as a good area of high pressure builds eastward across Ontario and 
the upper Great Lakes region. 


Kjb 


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Lot watches/warnings/advisories... 
Illinois...none. 
In...none. 
Lm...none. 
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