Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Green Bay WI 1048 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 Updated aviation portion for 06z taf issuance Update... issued at 839 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 A large cluster of thunderstorms extending from Missouri into wstrn Illinois will likely stay mainly to the southeast of grb County Warning Area tonight. However... several smaller lines or clusters of storms over southeast Minnesota and Iowa are expected to consolidate into a large area and lift north through the forecast area during the very late evening and overnight. The hrrr and rap models seem to have a decent handle on this situation...and show the convection overspreading c/ec WI between 04z-06z...and northern WI between 06z-08z. Instability is not expected to be great...with MUCAPE in the 500-1000 j/kg range...but deep layer shear should be fairly strong...in the 40-50 knots range. Dynamic forcing from a short wave trough and 100 knots jet streak...plus moisture convergence on the nose of 35 knots low level jet will provide the trigger. Suspect that isolated severe thunderstorms will be possible in c/ec WI toward the beginning of the event...before the storms form into a larger cluster. Wet bulb zero heights around 9k feet are supportive of large hail...and dcape values of 800-900 j/kg are marginally supportive of strong wind gusts. Update issued at 631 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 Updated probability of precipitation for this evening and overnight. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms were occurring over NC WI due to a short wave trough and lfq of an upper level jet. This activity should lift north of the region by 01z-02z. Latest hrrr/rap suggest that a more significant round of thunderstorms will arrive in our southern counties late this evg...and quickly spread NE through the County Warning Area during the overnight hours. This convection will be driven by another short wave trough and jet streak...as well as moisture convergence on the nose of a 30 knots low level jet. Although surface based instability will be waning by that time...some elevated instability will persist and shear profiles will be supportive of organized storms. The area remains in a slight risk for severe thunderstorms...so will watch closely to see how this develops as the evg progresses. && Short term...tonight and Tuesday issued at 306 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 The threat for severe storms continues to be the primary focus of the forecast for both tonight and on Tuesday. The 19z msas surface analysis showed a strong area of low pressure over the NE corner of South Dakota with a frontal boundary extended eastward through central WI. A cold front stretched southward from the low through the plains. A look at the water vapor imagery indicated an middle-level area of low pressure over the northern plains. Thunderstorms have fired over in lower Michigan where better instability resides and showers continued to spin northward over western WI. An initial surge of drier air aloft was not handled well by the models earlier today...however prevailing SW winds to pump more moisture into WI later this afternoon/early evening and help to lift convective available potential energy into the 1000-1500 j/kg range. Moderate to strong 0-6km shear remains over the region...thus as moisture increases and a trigger arrives (mid-level speed max)...expect to see convection Blossom to our south and overspread NE WI later this evening. The thunderstorm activity should be line segments which could bring some of this stronger wind aloft down to the surface...thus the greatest severe threat would be damaging wind gusts. Storms should weaken a bit during the overnight hours as instability weakens...but have kept shower/isolated thunderstorm wording overnight as shortwave energy to still be moving through the region. The upper trough to our west is forecast to slowly edge east across the plains and weaken a bit. Meanwhile...the surface low tracks across the upper MS valley and also weakens somewhat on Tuesday. The main question for Tuesday for NE WI is how many clouds will still be around during the morning from overnight convection? The atmosphere should have stabilized by this time and will have to wait for the clouds to break up to permit sufficient heating to allow destabilization to take place. Another concern would be the anticipated mesoscale convective system over the Southern Plains/mid-MS valley which could rob some of the incoming Gulf moisture. Once instability occurs...models show enough shear to help organize the next round of strong to severe thunderstorms from the Great Lakes SW to the Ozarks. Since there is some doubt as to when the new storms would fire and exactly where they would fire...prefer to focus higher probability of precipitation in the afternoon. Long term...Tuesday night through Monday issued at 306 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 The latest GFS ensemble mean indicates that the pesky upper low thats currently over the Central Plains will shift east across the area Wednesday night before departing. Thereafter...northwest flow will prevail for several days...which will lead to quieter and cooler conditions. The next chance of precipitation following the upper low will occur due to return flow next weekend...which models offer different solutions. As is usual...the GFS is more progressive in advancing a warm front into the region Saturday night into Sunday...which the European model (ecmwf) portrays a strong Hudson Bay high keeping the warm front to our SW. The European model (ecmwf) has support from the Canadian so think a compromise between the two solutions is in order. Tuesday night through Thursday...upper low over the Dakotas will finally shift east Tuesday night and Wednesday. Broad surface low pressure will move east across Wisconsin Tuesday night before a secondary surface low organizes over northern Illinois. Should have enough surface instability and forcing for the threat of storms to continue through Tuesday evening. Storms should dissipate overnight on Tuesday...but some showers may continue over north-c Wisconsin closer a stalled out front. Showers look to be a decent bet on Wednesday as the surface low moves from northern Illinois into lower Michigan and the upper low moves overhead. Out of the warm sector...temperatures will be cooling off into the 60s with plenty of clouds around. Will lower highs a tad. Precipitation will be diminishing from northwest to southeast Wednesday night as the low heads towards the eastern Great Lakes...and a dry Hudson Bay high builds over the northern Mississippi Valley. This high will then reside across the area on Thursday with highs in the low to middle 60s. Rest of the forecast...Hudson Bay high will continue to be present across the area on Friday with highs not that different than on Thursday. By Friday night and Saturday...a building ridge over the central part of the continent will push a warm front north across the Great Plains. Should see a band of precipitation develop north of the boundary from the northern plains to the southwest Great Lakes. The Hudson Bay high pressure will continue to funnel in very dry air across Wisconsin during this time...and tend to think that the dry air will win out for much of the forecast area. Think precipitation chances will improve over the second half of the weekend as the middle-level ridge moves east and the warm front lifts north. && Aviation...for 06z taf issuance issued at 1043 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 Rain showers/thunderstorms and rain will become more numerous as they spread north into the forecast area overnight. MVFR/local IFR conditions should accompany the thunderstorms...along with a threat of heavy rainfall...small hail and brief gusty winds. The storms should taper off from south to north late tonight into Tuesday morning...although showers may linger over far northern WI. Some lingering low clouds and fog may also persist across the forecast area through mid-morning. Low pressure will move into the region on Tuesday afternoon...and should generate another round of thunderstorms. The storms should taper off from west to east during the late afternoon and early evening. Partial clearing may cause some fog and low clouds to develop Tuesday evening. && Marine... issued at 306 PM CDT Monday may 20 2013 Next round of showers and storms should occur early this evening and linger into the early morning hours. These storms could produce strong winds. Moist air flowing over the colder waters of the Bay and lake will result in fog at times through Tuesday night. The fog will be locally dense with visibilities below one mile at times. && Grb watches/warnings/advisories... none. && $$ Update.........Kieckbusch short term.....AK long term......mpc aviation.......kieckbusch marine.........AK