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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Green Bay WI 
541 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Updated aviation portion for 00z taf issuance 


Short term...tonight and Sunday 
issued at 305 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Frost potential is the main concern during this part of the 
forecast. 


An upper level short wave that managed to pass through an upper 
ridge axis is forecast to continue to move southeast...taking the 
precipitation that was over the middle Mississippi Valley along with 
it. Middle and high clouds from the system spread across the area 
during the day...but they should start to clear out during the 
night as the system departs. A surface ridge that was over the 
upper Great Lakes region today is expected to move little through 
00z Monday. 


A weak surface pressure gradient...dew points mainly in the 
30s...and little cloud cover will allow temperatures to at least 
fall into the middle 30s across the northern part of the forecast 
area. 12z MOS guidance for Rhinelander had lows of 33 from the GFS 
and 37 degrees from the NAM. Have gone closer to the NAM but am a 
bit concerned since the 19z dew point was only 32 at rhi. There 
should be at least areas of frost over much of the north...with 
widespread frost in the far north. Thus...have a frost advisory for 
Oneida County and along the Upper Michigan border late tonight 
through early Sunday morning. 


Long term...Sunday night through Saturday 
issued at 305 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


500mb ridge is expected to build across the eastern United States 
by the middle of next week...while West Coast trough deepens. 
This pattern change will lead to unsettled weather... starting 
Monday night and continue through much of next week. Overall 
forecast confidence in smaller scale features/sensible weather low 
with expected rounds of convection. 


Will stay dry through Monday as low level jet/strong warm air advection focused into 
western Minnesota. 12z NCEP models have trended this way. Overnight 
temperatures Sunday night still to run on cool side...especially 
far northeast WI with lingering dry air and light winds. 


Have gone with sref/ensemble forecast Monday night through Tuesday 
given run to run differences in convective details. Look for increasing 
probability of precipitation through the period as low level jet shifts into WI and warm front 
over southern Illinois/Iowa begins to move north as short wave/s? Moves 
into/through plains. Increasing moisture with precipitable waters 1.5 in or 
greater...instability and height falls to lead to rounds of 
convection over upper Midwest and western lakes. Each with 
potential for heavy rain. 


For later periods...question is where warm front will end up. Will 
stay with blend/ensembles to avoid differences between models. Models 
suggest front to lift north of state...with continued warm/humid 
air over WI. Temperatures above norms with potential highs in the 
80s/lows in the 60s into Sat. Though again high temperatures each 
day to be problematic due to possible cloud cover...rain and 
position of the surface front. 
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Aviation...for 00z taf issuance 
issued at 541 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Excellent flying weather with just a few middle and 
high clouds tonight and Sunday. Frost possible early Sunday 
morning in far northern Wisconsin. 
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Grb watches/warnings/advisories... 
frost advisory from 1 am to 7 am CDT Sunday for wiz005-010>013. 
&& 


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Short term.....Mg 
long term......te 
aviation.......rdm