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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Hastings NE 
627 am CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Update... 
issued at 625 am CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


As discussed earlier...ended up making a few adjustments to very 
short term grids based on latest radar trends...and with support 
from the latest rap13/hrrr qpf/reflectivity. Although cannot rule 
out a few spots reporting light measurable rain with this 
activity...especially in the Nance/Polk County area...think that 
non-measurable sprinkles will be the dominant story for most of 
the affected area...and thus left out a measurable pop. 
However...beefed up sprinkle wording to widespread in several far 
northeast counties through noon 17z...and expanded an isolated 
sprinkle mention as far south as a Loup City-Geneva line. It may 
turn out that this light precipitation may be out of the picture well 
before noon...but given the very slow moving nature of the parent 
middle level low to the east anything is possible. Also beefed up sky 
cover percentages from mostly cloudy to outright cloudy across 
roughly the northeast 1/2 of the County Warning Area through mid-day...while 
leaving a more optimistic trend in place farther southwest. The 
latest hrrr is now sporting a roughly 20 degree high-temperature gradient 
across the County Warning Area this afternoon from only low-middle 50s northeast to 
middle 70s southwest. Other short term models such as the rap13 are 
not as cool in the northeast as the hrrr...and thus will resist 
the urge to modify afternoon highs at this time...but for sure its 
possible that some northeast areas could struggle to reach the 
middle-upper 50s and next shift will have monitor trends. 


&& 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 509 am CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


While there is certainly no high-impact weather during the next 
24 hours...there are at least a few tricky elements at 
hand...including the extent of low stratus and its possible 
influence on a fairly decent southwest-northeast temperature 
gradient...and also the extent of sprinkles/light rain showers 
mainly this morning in the northeast. 


08z objective surface analysis reveals no major features across 
the Central Plains...with the County Warning Area positioned between a modest 1004 
millibar low over eastern Iowa...and a 1014mb high over the Nebraska 
Panhandle...a southward extension of a stronger...broader high 
well to the north in Canada. Within the modest pressure gradient 
between these features...a fairly steady north-northwest breeze of 
10-15 miles per hour has prevailed through the nigh in most areas...with 
occasional gusts over 20 miles per hour. Temperatures will start out the 
morning seasonably cool...with eventual lows aimed into the middle- 
upper 40s all areas. Aloft...water vapor imagery and short term 
model data features a closed 500mb low drifting slowly 
east...centered near the Iowa/SD/neb border...and a fairly sharp middle 
level trough axis then trailing south-southeast into the middle-south 
states. Off to the west of the local area...a low amplitude middle 
level ridge is aligned north-south through The Rockies...with a 
fairly vigorous...expansive closed low spinning over the Pacific 
northwest. While it has taken its time forming...11-3.9 micron 
satellite imagery and automated observation have finally revealed the 
formation of fairly widespread low stratus mainly in the 1500-2500 
feet range over much of the County Warning Area...although some breaks in the clouds 
do still exist. Also just within the past 90 minutes or so...an 
increasing flare-up of light rain/sprinkles has taken place mainly 
over the far northern/northeast County Warning Area...with upstream observation at places 
such as Oneill and Albion confirming at least trace amounts are 
falling. 


Today...the main story aloft involves the continued slow departure 
of the closed middle level low...with the center of this feature 
prognosticated to only reach northeast Iowa by 00z. At the surface...a 
modest pressure gradient will remain in place as high pressure to 
the north noses southward...and this in combination with mixing to 
at least 850mb in most areas will result in somewhat breezy 
conditions especially within the northeast 2/3 of the County Warning Area...with 
sustained northwest winds 15 to possibly 20 miles per hour...and some higher 
gusts. The real challenge today lies initially with the extent and 
intensity of rainfall...and also just how stubborn the low stratus 
deck will be...and whether or not it retreats slow northeast 
during the afternoon. Starting out early this morning through middle- 
day...have introduced a mention of sprinkles to a previously 
precipitation-free forecast for far northeast areas mainly north of a 
Greeley-Polk line...as decent low-middle level saturation up to 
around 600mb resides mainly in this zone and points 
northeast...associated with a batch of middle level moisture focused 
in the deformation zone on the back-side of the departing low. The 
very short term question that will need pondered over the next few 
hours is whether to expand this sprinkle mention southwestward 
closer to I-80 per suggestion of the latest hrrr reflectity 
forecast...and also whether to up the ante to a measurable pop. Will 
give it some time to see if area observations support a few 
hundredths of accumulations before possibly making this move. At 
any rate...any light rainfall in the northeast...especially of the 
potentially measurable variety...is expected to be out of the 
picture by noon...as the middle levels start to dry out from west to 
east. Cloud-wise...have leaned toward a combination of the NAM and 
hrrr...with the expectation of a rather sharp southwest-northeast 
gradient ranging from mostly sunny-partly cloudy southwest to 
mostly cloudy at best in the northeast. Shaky confidence in these 
cloud details lead to somewhat shaky confidence in high temperatures. At 
least for now...nudged southwest areas up a few degrees and 
northeast areas down a few degrees versus previous...while leaving 
the central rather unchanged. As a result...am aiming from upper 
50s-low 60s far north/northeast to middle 60s Tri-Cities to middle 70s 
southwest. However...am starting to wonder if the hrrr might be 
onto something...keeping much of the northeast 1/2 of the County Warning Area well 
down in the middle-50s at best under the longest-lasting stratus. 
This will bear watching for later updates...but Don/T want to go 
quite this cool yet. 


Turning to the tonight period...00z-12z...confidence remains 
rather high in a legitimately dry night...with the sole possible 
exception of some patchy light drizzle in the evening in the north 
under a low stratus deck...but this scenario is too uncertain to 
insert at this time. In the middle-upper levels...the departing low 
finally slips far enough east to allow the ridge to the west to 
start building into neb/KS. Although there will be a modest 
northwest-southeast oriented Wing of middle level moisture 
advection/isentropic lift that sets up from southwest Nebraska to 
southeast Kansas mainly after midnight as evident on the 310k 
surface...soundings suggest that lift/moisture should be 
insufficient for precipitation over the County Warning Area...although a few showers or 
even weak storms could flare up within a few counties just to the 
south/southwest by sunrise. At the surface...high pressure will 
continue oozing down from the north...keeping fairly light but 
steady northerly breezes around 10 miles per hour in place. Despite the 
presence of potentially decent low level saturation...these 
breezes should keep anything more than haze/light fog at Bay. The 
real question mark at this point tonight again lies with low 
stratus trends. While the previous forecast had no worse than 
partly cloudy skies...the latest NAM runs and associated met 
guidance fairly aggressively bring a batch of low stratus back 
southward across most of the County Warning Area as the night wears on...with this 
especially evident at 900mb. For now...have started an upward 
trend in sky cover...but very well may not be high enough 
especially Post-midnight. Even if stratus does end up being more 
widespread than currently suggested...confidence is decent that 
low temperatures will end up similar to those of this morning...and used 
a blend of met/mav guidance...aiming for another cool one with middle 
40s most spots. 


Long term...(thursday through tuesday) 
issued at 509 am CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Models are in good agreement transitioning a ridge of high pressure 
across the plains on Thursday in wake of the departing upper level 
low. While heights aloft will be rising...expect only a modestly 
warmer afternoon on Thursday as 850mb temperatures are expected to only 
rebound a couple of degrees and plenty of cloud cover is expected in 
easterly upslope flow. 


As the winds shift more southeasterly Thursday night and 
Friday...expect additional moisture to surge northward...and for 
increasing instability across the region. This building instability 
combined with some forcing from the low level jet...will likely 
result in a chance of thunderstorms Thursday night across the 
southern half of the forecast area...which will be in closer 
proximity to the jet. With the nose of the nocturnal jet more 
focused across The Heart of local area Friday and Friday 
night...cannot rule out additional elevated shower and thunderstorm 
activity across the entire forecast area...with the best chances for 
precipitation coming during the late evening and overnight hours. 


Thereafter the middle level cap is expected to weaken substantially by 
Saturday afternoon... and with several thousand joules of cape to 
work with through the remainder of the long term periods...will 
likely see thunderstorms around each day as periodic vorticity 
maxima eject out of the longwave trough across the West Coast. 
Additionally...with these substantial cape values and marginally 
supportive shear profiles...will have the potential for some severe 
thunderstorms develop from time to time Saturday Onward...with large 
hail and strong thunderstorm wind gusts being the primary threats. 
Temperatures through the period are not expected to fluctuate a 
whole lot as there will be little change in the underlying airmass 
Saturday Onward...with lower to middle 80s expected each afternoon 
and lower 60s expected at night. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 12z kgri taf through 12z Thursday morning) 
issued at 625 am CDT Wednesday may 22 2013 


Although confidence is high in VFR visibility through the 
period...ceiling trends continue to be tricky as plenty of lower 
stratus hangs around the area on the back side of a departing middle 
level low. Starting off through the morning into the middle-afternoon 
hours...have continued a prevailing MVFR ceiling...although just 
within the past hour clouds at the MVFR level have scattered a 
bit...diminishing confidence somewhat and suggesting that MVFR 
may be more off-and-on. Also this morning...a few sprinkles cannot 
be ruled out at kgri...but given such low impact will omit any 
precipitation mention. Through the late afternoon and evening 
hours...kept trend from previous forecast by raising prevailing 
ceiling to low-end VFR. However...confidence in the details really 
decreases by the last 6 hours or so late tonight...as some 
models/guidance suggest a low-MVFR and possibly even IFR deck 
could materialize...while other models keep ceiling VFR. As a 
compromise between the wide possibilities at this time 
range...will introduce a scattered low-end MVFR cloud group. 
Wind-wise...a steady north-northwest breeze will prevail much of 
the day with gust potential to around 22kt...before slackening this 
evening and averaging under 10kt overnight. 


&& 


Gid watches/warnings/advisories... 
NE...none. 
Kansas...none. 
&& 


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