Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Glasgow Montana 216 PM MDT Tuesday may 21 2013 Short term...for northeast Montana...tonight through Thursday... an upper level low over eastern South Dakota will continue to drive wraparound light shower activity over the southeast this evening. Shower activity will quickly taper off after midnight as the upper low pushes to the east. Dry and warm conditions will rule on Wednesday as upper ridging dominates ahead of an approaching upper trough over the Pacific northwest. Gusty southeast winds will also pick up during the late morning in response to the approaching low...necessitating a lake Wind Advisory that will last into late Thursday evening. Southerly flow aloft associated with the approaching upper low looks to build into the western zones by Wednesday evening. Disturbances in this flow will create decent chances for showers and thunderstorms across the west into Thursday. Gilchrist Long term...Thursday night through Tuesday... the upper level ridge gets pushed aside Thursday night and Friday by a lobe off the strong Pacific-northwest closed low swinging north through Montana. Weak instability develops to the southwest late Thursday so the disturbance could generate scattered rain showers and isolated thunder mainly in the western zones. A more distinct cold front will push through the area on Friday...but again...the best instability and moisture remain outside northeast Montana... according to the GFS. The timing is different in the ec...which could bring the front into the area Friday afternoon with instability. With model differences on Friday...will leave probability of precipitation as is. Model differences continue into Saturday. There could be showers and thunder or not...depending on the model. So again will leave along. There is at least the potential with the GFS model to match up a temperature boundary with some very unstable conditions... which could lead to some energetic thunderstorms. Sunday looks like the best day for timing and location to bring about possibly very energetic storms. The grids handle this uncertainty well...so few change past day four. Scattered Previous discussion... the extended period begins Thursday night with a closed upper trough across the west and an upper level ridge across the southern U.S. That extends through the plains. This places northeast Montana in diffluent southwest flow aloft. The 00z model suite is pointing to a robust shortwave pushing through the flow which could lead to enhanced dynamic lift across parts of the County Warning Area. The 850mb level easterly/southeasterly winds will help to pump in low level moisture...and also suggest the presence of a low level jet which could help to force convection if the other dynamic ingredients discussed come together coincident ly. Decent equivalent potential temperature ridge looks to be in place across the County Warning Area by Friday afternoon with warming temperatures out ahead of the trough. The middle levels also look pretty dry. This leads to the concern that some storms that develop may produce hail. The 00z European model (ecmwf) forecast soundings show Li between -1 and 1 across the County Warning Area and total totals in the upper 40s and not much cape. Notice a nice veering profile in the European model (ecmwf) forecast soundings with about 40 kts of 0-6 km speed shear. The GFS shows actually higher lifted index values and is less suggestive of strong convection in short...the ingredients are there for good thunderstorm development but some parameters appear only marginal and so confidence on strong storms is not yet there. Will need to look at future model runs for consistency. Timing of the shortwave as it intersects the Theta-E ridge will also be key...right now it appears the northern zones and southern Saskatchewan may be in the best location for Friday afternoon for convection initiation if following the ec guidance. Any convection should slowly dwindle Friday night with the loss of daytime heating. On Saturday...upper flow pattern maintains southwest flow aloft over the County Warning Area with ridge axis running from Texas...northwestward through the plains and into NE Montana. This should actually lead to warmer temperatures which could lend to enhancing the potential for convection initiation. Nice upper level diffluence is noted and some of the forecast soundings are certainly indicative of convective potential. There is also some subtle embedded shortwave energy that pushes through shortwave flow aloft...but nothing as impressive as the wave on Friday. Sunday into Sunday night presently looks to be the best potential for thunderstorms to develop which could become strong in nature. There is much better agreement in both the European model (ecmwf) and GFS with both forecast soundings showing lifted index values between -5 and -8 across the County Warning Area. The GFS BUFKIT sounding shows around 1500 j/kg of cape and total totals approaching 60. Though a nice veering wind profile exists in both European model (ecmwf)/GFS soundings... though would like to see more speed shear in the soundings. Should also point out that forecast soundings from both models are showing precipitable waters of over an inch. With again dry air present in the middle levels...would be concerned about hail formation with any storms. There is again a low level 850mb easterly jet that forms...which should help to pump in low level moisture. Nice Theta-E ridge axis over the County Warning Area along with a couple of shortwaves that pass off to the west could also help provide decent lift if the timing is right...and that will be the key for determining the overall extent of the thunderstorm potential. Of all of the days in the extended period...this looks to be the one with the best model agreement and the best in terms of various ingredients coming together both dynamically and thermodynamically that are coincident with each other. Will of course need to watch for continuity in the model solutions to determine if this continues. Will also need to hone in on mesoscale details which are difficult to determine this far in advance. Where these ingredients come together...the precise timing of the shortwave features...and how everything interacts with mesoscale processes will determine the precise extent of convective potential. Monday and beyond...NE Montana is expected to remain in southwest flow aloft with the European model (ecmwf) guidance suggesting perhaps the upper pattern could become more zonal late next week. The GFS on the other hand keeps the overall pattern aloft from the southwest. This overall pattern would be considered favorable for a continued potential for convective showers and thunderstorms to develop depending on timing/track of shortwave features in the flow. Maliawco. && Aviation... mostly VFR through Wednesday...although brief MVFR ceilings are possible today at ksdy and kgdv. The closed low pressure system is now centered over eastern South Dakota...with the back edge of the low level stratus cloud deck covering eastern counties in northeast Montana this morning. So far...seeing ceilings of around 3.5kft-4kft over ksdy and kgdv. Otherwise satellite imagery reveals an overcast of thin high stratus over kggw and kolf. By this time on Wednesday the low stratus should have moved well to the east Expect wind to become easterly today at 12kt to 20kt. On Wednesday a developing surface trough in the Lee of the northern rockies will set up stronger easterly wind across the area. Expect wind to reach 15kt to 25 knots by afternoon. Scattered && Glasgow watches/warnings/advisories... lake Wind Advisory from 10 am Wednesday to midnight MDT Thursday night for Fort Peck Lake for central and southeast Phillips... central and southern valley...Garfield...McCone...Petroleum. && $$ Weather.Gov/Glasgow