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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Sioux Falls South Dakota 
639 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 430 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Thunderstorm complex over Nebraska overnight continues early this 
morning. Seeing showers and storms beginning to expand across 
northwest Iowa as well as low level thetae advection increases. High 
res model suite look to have a pretty good handle on this activity. 
Expect it to continue this morning and possibly expand a bit further 
north into portions of southwest Minnesota. Lowered probability of precipitation across 
southeast South Dakota...as all indications are that these storms 
will not develop northwest of their current location. Most of the 
storms should be east of the County Warning Area by 16z. Main impacts will be 
briefly heavy rain and possibly small hail with these cells...as 
effective shear and cape are too low for any severe threat. Much of 
the afternoon should then be dry across the County Warning Area with an area of 
subsidence likely behind this mornings shortwave. Warm frontal 
boundary will position itself south of the Missouri River this 
afternoon. Hrrr and rap try to break the cap their this 
afternoon...but both these models seem a bit overdone with dewpoints 
and instability. Feel more likely scenario is activity waits for the 
low level jet to kick in after 0z before it gets going. 


Other issue today is cloud cover and high temperatures. 
Interestingly the hrrr and rap are complete opposite of each 
other...giving around a 20 degree difference in highs...with the rap 
having more stratus and cooler temperatures. The Gem and European model (ecmwf) side 
closer to the rap...with the NAM in between. Since the areal 
coverage of low stratus is currently less than expected...did go 
ahead and raise highs several degrees for today in our central and 
west. Also the hrrr has a good handle on the current situation...so 
one would think its short range forecast should be somewhat 
reliable...and it has consistently been warm for today. Lowered 
highs a few in the east where it is raining...and where stratus 
should indeed hold in for much of the day. Again this is a pretty 
low confidence temperature forecast for anywhere east of the James 
River. But feel going forecast is a decent starting point...with the 
day shift likely having to adjust up or down depending on cloud 
cover trends. 


Quiet short term conditions from the afternoon hours should turn 
quickly to more stormy conditions overnight. Gave a fair amount 
of credit to the consistency of the 00z high resolution namdng5 
and WRF-arw solutions...which fit the overall conceptual model for 
convective initiation tonight. Boundary from current night mesoscale convective system 
will be festering and drifting northward...with likely 1000 to 
1500 j/kg elevated cape lifted from 1 to 1.5 km above ground level. As 35 to 40 
knot low level jet develops tonight through the Central Plains... 
should become enough to initiate elevated thunderstorms near/north 
of the boundary which will be drifting northward of Interstate 80 
during the evening hours. Effective shear in areas north of the 
boundary will be very concentrated in the 1-3km layer with strongest 
winds in low levels and weakening middle level winds roughly 20-30 
knots...with lesser deep layer shear contributions from Above. All 
suggest at least a minimal threat for isolated larger hail or 
damaging winds through the Missouri River corridor and lifting 
somewhat northward through 066-08z. Other significant convective 
initiation is likely to occur back through the western High Plains 
where stronger shear exists with a bit stronger middle level winds 
to around 25 knots...as well as the deep upslope transport of moisture 
to result in stronger instability. Eventually...when supercell motions 
which will take action more southward than east start to ease...and 
low level jet veers eastward...will find a more linear mesoscale convective system likely 
taking shape. Many hi res models suggest this mesoscale convective system will zipper down 
the location of the warm advection Wing spreading northward...moving 
toward east central South Dakota and southwest Minnesota late night. Severe threat 
with this feature would seem to be somewhat lower...but likely to 
get some gusty winds and areas of heavy rainfall. 


Long term...(sunday through friday) 
issued at 430 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Mesoscale convective system expected to weaken and shift east on Sunday...and with middle 
level forcing showing tendency to force subsidence around 
midday...again expect that much of the daytime period will 
probably end up precipitation free. However...clouds likely to 
persist with stratus developing in wake of system. Most likely to 
get breaks through the western and southern County Warning Area during the 
afternoon...and have pushed expected temperatures to near 80 there... 
while more middle to upper 60s linger in the far east. Result of this 
will be generation of decent potential instability of 1500-2000 
j/kg across the area...with weakest of the capping inversion near 
the Missouri River corridor. Shear becomes a bit more distributed 
through the effective layer...and fairly close to those values 
from this evening from 30 to 35 knots. A few more severe storms 
would be possible mainly through the southwest half of the area 
during the later afternoon and evening hours...as initiation 
likely to be a result of weak impulse sliding up back side of 
ridge in the later afternoon and early evening. 


The further one GOES into the forecast...the less reliable any 
guidance becomes given the abundance of convection...and the 
increasingly great uncertainty as to where critical boundaries may 
lie. One thing for sure...given the closed low across the western 
U.S. And the southwest flow aloft...difficult to pinpoint any time 
from Monday on that one could say there was absolutely no chance 
for precipitation...but on the same front it certainly will not be 
an all time washout with many breaks defined on the mesoscale. 
Memorial Day and Monday night will place the area on the southern 
flank of a couple of waves moving over the ridge...so likely to 
have enhancement of precipitation in the nocturnally favored 
periods. While a few severe storms are again well within 
reason...high precipitable water and fairly slow moving wind 
profiles bring the concern of areas of heavy rainfall...at this 
range hard to define. At the moment...the Prospect for more 
significant convection and severe weather would appear to be late 
day Wednesday into Thursday...as deep western closed low kicks 
stronger jet energy into the plains. Moisture through lower levels 
/thus instability/ will continue to benefit from persistent 
southerly flow. Temperatures will likely gravitate to somewhat 
above normal readings through the upcoming week. 


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Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Sunday morning) 
issued at 619 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Low confidence taf forecast. Many guidance solutions showing IFR to 
MVFR stratus this morning. These solutions show it developing over 
Nebraska and Iowa and advecting into our area. Winds are 
southeasterly from 1500 feet and below and southwesterly above that. 
That southwesterly wind is advecting in dry air...thus only stratus 
below 1500 feet would be able to advect into the area. Currently not 
seeing much of that out there. Thus cut back on the low ceilings and kept 
most of our area VFR. However will have to monitor things through the 
morning. Not out of the question that low stratus still forms...or 
that we get some MVFR stratocu after sunrise. Next problem is 
convection. This mornings activity should remain east of the taf 
sites and exit the County Warning Area by middle to late morning. Tonight...expect 
activity to get going in the vicinity of a low level warm front after 
03z. Where this exactly happens remains uncertain. At this point it 
appear that areas near the Missouri River have the best shot. Also 
expect a thunderstorm complex to form to our northwest...and dive 
through the area after 7z into the morning hours. Main threats will 
be reductions to IFR visible/ceiling in the heavier rain...but some hail and 
gusty winds are also possible. Stratus may also try to form 
tonight...but that will be dependent on how well we mix out the low 
level moisture today. Did put MVFR ceilings in the tafs starting this 
evening...but this is also unfortunately uncertain. 


&& 


Fsd watches/warnings/advisories... 
South Dakota...none. 
Minnesota...none. 
Iowa...none. 
NE...none. 
&& 


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Short term...Chapman/chenard 
long term...Chapman 
aviation...chenard