Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Grand Forks ND 
942 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Update... 
issued at 935 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


No changes necessary for this update period. Skies to remain sky clear 
today and temperatures in line with forecast rise. 


Update issued at 634 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Made a few tweaks to hourly temperatures as they are running a bit 
cooler than what we had going. Otherwise no changes needed as 
conditions remain pretty quiet. 


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Short term...(today through friday) 
issued at 342 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Temperatures and timing of precipitation moving in Friday will be the 
primary concerns for the period. 


Quiet conditions will continue for the next day or so as upper 
ridging builds into the region between systems. Surface high pressure 
will continue to nose down into the upper Midwest from Canada. 
Northeasterly winds will bring some drier air into the area this 
morning but then gradually shift around to the southeast later 
today. There will be some cooler 850mb temperatures moving in but with 
plenty of sun we should still get well into the 60s in most areas 
for highs. 


Southeasterly winds will increase a bit tonight as surface low 
pressure deepens over eastern Montana. West will see the biggest impact 
from mixing while the eastern counties will still be drier with 
light winds and many locations will drop below 40 degrees. The 
southeasterly winds will continue into Friday and highs should be 
mainly in the 60s. 


By Friday afternoon the surface trough will move into western ND. 
Models all break out some precipitation along a frontal boundary/wind 
shift Friday afternoon. Continued to keep chance probability of precipitation going for 
the western counties Friday afternoon. Not much surface based cape to 
work with but showalters still get close to zero so kept showers 
with isolated thunderstorms. 


Long term...(friday night through wednesday) 
issued at 342 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Friday night...precipitation will continue to move into the eastern County Warning Area 
but the main frontal boundary will begin to wash out. Continued to 
keep high chance probability of precipitation going but with the main upper shortwave 
still well off to the north think that most activity will be 
pretty scattered so will not put in any likelies for the time 
being. Think there should be a break in the precipitation at least over 
the western part of the County Warning Area Saturday morning before a weak 
shortwave comes over the top of the ridge and sets off some 
activity Saturday afternoon and evening. NAM has hardly anything 
in our western counties but the global models are a bit more wet. 
Will continue to keep around 30 probability of precipitation going for Saturday afternoon 
and night. 


Sunday-Wednesday...quite a bit of uncertainty exists throughout this 
period. 00z models indicate the upper ridge axis will begin to break 
down and shift eastward during the period...with southwest flow 
aloft developing. However...compared with the GFS...the European model (ecmwf)/Gem 
maintain a more amplified ridge over the region into early next 
week. With slower moisture return...this would significantly lessen 
precipitation chances through Memorial Day. Given the overall 
uncertainty...will keep some chance probability of precipitation...highest west...through 
Monday...although quite a few dry hours are expected. After 
Monday...model differences become magnified...with the European model (ecmwf) 
continuing to be much less progressive than the GFS with the 
synoptic pattern. The European model (ecmwf) does begin to shift the 
moisture/instability axis eastward into the region with persistent 
low-level southerly flow ahead of the upper trough. Thus...precipitation 
chances may increase towards mid-week...although run-to-run 
consistency among models has been poor. 


With gradually rising thicknesses through the period...high temperatures 
are expected to rise from the 60s to low 70s for the latter half of 
the Memorial Day weekend into the middle 70s by the middle of next 
week...with lows mainly in the 50s. 


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Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Friday morning) 
issued at 634 am CDT Thursday may 23 2013 


VFR conditions will continue as cirrus moves over the area. 
Northeasterly winds around 10 kts will become southeasterly by 
evening. 




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Hydrology... 
issued at 342 am CDT Thursday may 22 2013 


River flood warnings remain in effect at Walhalla and Neche along 
the Pembina river...with Walhalla having crested and falling...and 
Neche now beginning to fall slowly. 


The Park River at Grafton appears to be near its crest this morning 
a bit under its record of 16.5 feet. 


There are also a few river points within the area that are expected 
to reach minor flood stage. 


Areal flood warnings remain in effect for Pembina...eastern 
Cavalier...and Walsh counties. The main surge of water is now into 
central Pembina and Walsh counties...and will continue to move 
toward the Red River. Water levels across this area should gradually 
decrease over the next few days with little additional rainfall 
anticipated. 


A Flash Flood Watch remains in effect through Friday afternoon for 
areas downstream of the Renwick dam on The Tongue river. Water 
remains very high at the dam site and is being held back by a 
constructed earthen levee on top of the dam structure. Also... 
officials are continuing to monitor several retention dams to the 
west of Renwick dam. At this time...officials note the temporary 
levee on top of the Renwick dam appears to be stable and will be 
continually monitored. Lake Renwick has slowly receded over the past 
few hours. Water has stopped flowing over the emergency spillways at 
most of the retention dams west of the Renwick dam. However...the 
threat remains and failure would mean major flooding would be 
imminent for the cities of Akra...Cavalier...and Bathgate. 


&& 


Fgf watches/warnings/advisories... 
ND...Flash Flood Watch through Friday afternoon for ndz008. 


Minnesota...none. 
&& 


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Update...voelker 
short term...Jr 
long term...Jr/makowski 
aviation...Jr 
hydrology...makowski