Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Grand Forks ND 1155 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 Update... issued at 1155 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 Temperatures were falling faster in the east than expected. So have decreased temperatures east for morning by a couple degrees. Update issued at 959 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 Water vapor loop indicated northwest flow across the area. An upper low was located over northeast man and will move southeast. Low not expected to affect the area as upper ridge shifts east overnight. Dewpoints were relatively high over southwest and far northwest zones. Elsewhere dewpoints fell into the 20s today and were beginning to rise with sunset. Will keep low temperatures for tonight as is. Backed off on winds overnight mainly in the eastern zones. Update issued at 659 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 Upper level ridge axis was over the central Dakotas and will move into the eastern Dakotas tonight and Friday. Higher precipitable water over Montana/Wyoming will shift east tonight and Friday. Tweaked low temperature for tonight. A degree lower in the west and degree higher in the east. Going forecast os reasonable. && Short term...(this evening through Friday night) issued at 330 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 Forecast challenge concerns temperatures and low end precipitation chances through the period. Overall models in reasonable agreement and will use blend. Surface high pressure will shift east into Minnesota overnight. Weak return flow will set up however with sky clear and relatively low dewpoints region will see a cool night. Not be surprised if a few areas across the far east under high get some patchy frost. After cool start will see some modest warm advection which will help temperatures recover close to today. Mixing to increase as well as clouds ahead of weak short wave. Surface forcing remains to our west however maintained inherited probability of precipitation as lowering condensation pressure deficits and weak isentropic lift moves into forecast area middle to late afternoon. Best potential for any precipitation will shift into Minnesota overnight. From late afternoon into the overnight instability minimal so fairly low confidence on lightning however maintained isolated mention. Slightly warmer column and temperatures will hold temperatures up with no frost potential. Long term...(saturday through thursday) issued at 330 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 The first half of upcoming Holiday period looks to feature more clouds than sun...below average temperatures and spotty precipitation chances. With lack of instability and surface forcing/moisture axis to our west not a great deal of confidence in any organized precipitation through Sunday. Models in general agreement on overall theme for next week...chances of showers/thunderstorms throughout the period. While exact timing of features are different...models indicating an increasingly southerly fetch of Gulf moisture in to the plains. Limiting factor for northern tier will be likely convection in the Central Plains...which will limit some moisture availability in our area. Also timing of the departure of an upper ridge early in the period...which models are still struggling with. Upper pattern should switch to a SW flow pattern by middle week...if not sooner. && Aviation...(for the 06z tafs through 06z Friday night) issued at 1155 PM CDT Thursday may 23 2013 VFR conditions expected for tonight and much of Friday. Fog loop/surface observation indicated cirrus clouds spilling into the western zones this evening and expected high clouds to shift east overnight. Ceilings should lower from the west as system approaches forecast area on Friday. Some MVFR conditions possible in western zones by late Friday afternoon. Also few light showers possible late in the period. && Hydrology... issued at 959 PM CDT Thursday may 22 2013 River flood warnings remain in effect at Neche along the Pembina river. Other river flood warnings remain at Pembina...Drayton and Oslo on the mainstem red...as well as Hallock...Grafton...Dilworth and Sabin. Fargo...Minto and Walhalla are to remain below flood stage and the warnings at those points have been cancelled. The Park River at Grafton appears to have crested and the stage is currently below 15.5 feet and continues to fall. Areal flood warnings remain in effect for Pembina...eastern Cavalier...and Walsh counties. The main surge of water is now into central Pembina and Walsh counties...and will continue to move toward the Red River. Water levels across this area should gradually decrease over the next few days with little additional rainfall anticipated. A Flash Flood Watch remains in effect through Friday afternoon for areas downstream of the Renwick dam on The Tongue river. Water remains very high at the dam site and is being held back by a constructed earthen levee on top of the dam structure. At this time...officials note the temporary levee on top of the Renwick dam remains stable and will still be monitored. Otherwise...Lake Renwick has been slowly receding over the last 24 hours. Also...water has stopped flowing over the emergency spillways at most of the retention dams west of the Renwick dam. && Fgf watches/warnings/advisories... ND...Flash Flood Watch through Friday afternoon for ndz008. Minnesota...none. && $$ Update...hoppes short term...voelker long term...speicher/voelker aviation...hoppes hydrology...hoppes