AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 117 PM EDT TUE MAY 21 2013 .AVIATION... //DISCUSSION... A DEEP SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS THE REGION THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD. WHILE THIS WILL LEAVE THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT RELATIVELY MOIST AND UNSTABLE...PROSPECTS OF THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT REMAIN QUITE ILL-DEFINED. RECENT OBSERVATIONAL/ SATELLITE TRENDS AND MODEL GUIDANCE WOULD SUGGEST ANY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LATE THIS AFTERNOON WILL TEND TO REMAIN WIDELY SCATTERED IN COVERAGE. A DEEPENING MIXED LAYER WILL LEAD TO SOME SOUTHWESTERLY WIND GUSTS IN THE 20 KNOTS RANGE THROUGH PEAK HEATING. FOR DTW...A LOW PROBABILITY DOES EXIST FOR THUNDERSTORMS TO IMPACT THE TERMINAL LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. HOWEVER THE POTENTIAL NOW APPEARS TOO LIMITED GIVEN THE QUESTION OF COVERAGE TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC MENTION. //DTW THRESHOLD THREATS... * LOW CONFIDENCE IN THUNDERSTORM OCCURRANCE FROM MID AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING. && .PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 1013 AM EDT TUE MAY 21 2013 UPDATE... SE MICHIGAN REMAINS LODGED WITHIN A DEEP/MOIST AND PROGRESSIVELY DESTABILIZING SOUTHWEST FLOW LATE THIS MORNING. SEVERAL HOUR WINDOW OF NEARLY FULL INSOLATION CERTAINLY HELPING THIS PROCESS...ALTHOUGH THE NORTHERN EXTENSION OF THE REMNANT CLOUD DEBRIS ATTACHED TO THE LEFTOVER WEAK PV FILAMENT STREAMING INTO WEST-CENTRAL OHIO WILL BEGIN TO FILTERING THE HEATING COMPONENT SLIGHTLY HEADING INTO MIDDAY. HOWEVER GIVEN CURRENT TRENDS...HIGH TEMPERATURES OF LOWER TO MIDDLE 80S CERTAINLY ARE ATTAINABLE. THIS PROJECTS TO ROUGHLY 1500 J/KG OF MLCAPE FOR THIS AFTERNOON. DESPITE THIS EMERGING LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY GRADIENT...DELINEATING BOTH THE LOCATION AND SCALE OF CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT...BOTH UPSTREAM AND LOCALLY...REMAINS A CHALLENGE FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING PERIOD. 12Z DTX SOUNDING AND RECENT MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGEST SOME DEGREE OF CAPPING REMAINS IN PLACE...ALBEIT NOT NEARLY AS STRONG AS NOTED YESTERDAY. CONVECTIVE INITIATION MAY BECOME TIED TO ADDITIONAL WEAK SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND ON THE LEAD EDGE OF AN EXPANDING DIFFERENTIAL HEATING ZONE WORKING ACROSS MISSOURI AND INTO SOUTHERN ILLINOIS. RECENT HI RES MODEL GUIDANCE PROVIDE FEW CLUES...SUGGESTING A WINDOW FOR ISOLATED/SCATTERED DISCRETE CELL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT FAVORED 19-22Z PERIOD. GIVEN A SOLID BACKGROUND THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT TO MAINTAIN UPDRAFT STRENGTH...THE PRESENCE OF A SUPPORTIVELY DEEP LAYER WIND FIELD WILL MAINTAIN A RISK OF DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL WITH ANY CELLS THAT CAN ORGANIZE THROUGH THE PEAK HEATING CYCLE. MINOR UPDATE ISSUED ALREADY TO READJUST POPS THROUGH THE EVENING AND TWEAK TEMPERATURES BASED ON RECENT TRENDS. PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 738 AM EDT TUE MAY 21 2013 UPDATE... DESPITE A MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE AND SUPPORT FROM THE LOW LEVEL JET...MORNING CONVECTION HAS NOT HELD TOGETHER WELL AS IT HAS TRAVELLED THROUGH SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN THIS MORNING. AS THE 06Z RUNS COME IN THEY ARE KEEPING ADDITIONAL CONVECTION TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE AREA WHERE THE BETTER DYNAMICS ARE...IN STARK CONTRAST TO THE 00Z RUNS WHICH BLANKETED THE AREA WITH RAIN ALL DAY. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS SOME VALIDITY TO THIS THINKING AS THE JET STREAM TO THE NORTH PULLS STORMS OVER THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES AND ACTIVITY TO THE SOUTH SHOWS SIGNS OF STAYING OVER THE SOUTH. IT APPEARS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN COULD BE IN BETWEEN ACTIVITY TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH TODAY THE WAY WATER VAPOR IMAGERY IS SHAPING UP. GIVEN THESE FACTORS WILL TONE DOWN POPS FROM CATEGORICAL TO LIKELY...HOWEVER GOING BELOW THIS THRESHOLD WOULD BE A MISTAKE WITH THE AMOUNT OF INSTABILITY THAT IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS. FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FORECAST WILL BE MADE AS NECESSARY. PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 342 AM EDT TUE MAY 21 2013 SHORT TERM...TODAY AND TONIGHT LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS CURRENTLY OVER NORTHERN ILLINOIS IS SLOWLY BUT SURELY MARCHING NORTHEAST DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. THE MAIN QUESTION THIS MORNING IS HOW WELL THIS ACTIVITY WILL HOLD TOGETHER AS IT TRACKS THROUGH SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN. HI-RES MODEL RUNS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT IN BRINGING THE SYSTEM THROUGH BETWEEN 09-13Z. THAT IS WHERE THE AGREEMENT ENDS AS THE HRRR LIFTS THE BEST THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY NORTH THROUGH NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN WHILE THE WRF MAINTAINS THE LINE OF STRONG THUNDERSTORMS AS IT TRACKS THROUGH SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN...MAINLY NORTH OF THE M-59 CORRIDOR. THE EVOLUTION OF THE JET STREAM WOULD VALIDATE THE HRRR SOLUTION AS IT LIFTS THE 100+ KNOT JET NORTH OVER THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...TAKING THE UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE AFFORDED BY THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE JET WITH IT. HOWEVER LOWER LEVELS LEND CREDENCE TO THE WRF SOLUTION AS THE MAIN SHORTWAVE DRIVING THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE CONVECTION IS PROGGED TO GO DIRECTLY THROUGH SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN WITH THE NOSE OF THE 35 KNOT 850 MB LOW LEVEL JET POINTED OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN. DESPITE THE LOSS OF UPPER LEVEL JET SUPPORT...THE LOWER LEVEL DYNAMICS POINT TO AN ACTIVE MORNING ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN WITH THE LINE OF CONVECTION EXPECTED TO SURVIVE THE TRIP AND TRACK THROUGH THE AREA. THIS ACTIVITY WILL STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF INSTABILITY TO WORK WITH AS MUCAPE VALUES REMAIN AT 1000 TO 1500 J/KG DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FROM THIS MORNINGS CONVECTION WILL MAINLY BE A WIND THREAT...AS UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS SHOW LITTLE THREAT FROM LARGE HAIL...ALTHOUGH SMALL TO NEAR SEVERE HAIL IS A POSSIBILITY. AFTER THIS INITIAL ACTIVITY THE PICTURE BECOMES VERY MUDDLED AS THE NWP MODELS KEEP SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS GOING FOR MUCH OF THE DAY. THIS SCENARIO IS CERTAINLY PLAUSIBLE AS ANOTHER JET STREAK LIFTS FROM THE SOUTHWEST AND MAKES ITS WAY OVER THE GREAT LAKES REGION. AS A RESULT THE AREA WILL BE IN THE PATH OF SEVERAL SHORTWAVES ROTATING AROUND THE MAIN MID LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TAKING UP RESIDENCE OVER THE MISSOURI VALLEY. WITHOUT A KEY FEATURE INDICATING THERE WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL BREAK FROM THE ACTION...DO NOT PLAN ON DEVIATING MUCH FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST HIGH POPS THROUGH THE DAYTIME HOURS. SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL THIS AFTERNOON WILL HINGE ON THE ABILITY TO GET A BREAK IN THE CONVECTION. THIS WINDOW WILL NOT HAVE TO BE LARGE...AS EVIDENCED YESTERDAY...WITH A BRIEF BREAK ALLOWING TEMPERATURES AND CAPES TO RISE SIGNIFICANTLY IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. MODELS SHOW MUCAPE VALUES RANGING FROM 500 TO 1000 J/KG WITH A FAIRLY STEADY STREAM OF CONVECTION DURING THE DAY. AFTERNOON SUNSHINE COULD EASILY BOOST THESE VALUES TO AROUND 1500 J/KG GIVEN THE LATE MAY SUN ANGLE AND THE VERY WARM AIR IN THE LOW LEVELS. IN ADDITION TO THE INSTABILITY...0-6 KM BULK SHEAR VALUES ARE A GOOD 30 TO 40 KNOTS TODAY...MEANING THE POTENTIAL FOR STRONG TO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS AND LARGE HAIL ARE A POSSIBILITY. CLOSER INSPECTION OF THE HODOGRAPH AND LOW LEVEL CAPE SHOW ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL ALSO BE A THREAT...ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN GET SOME SUNSHINE...AS 0-3KM CAPE VALUES REACH 150 TO 200 J/KG AND STORM RELATIVE HELICITY VALUES GET TO 150 TO 200 M2/S2. ALL OF THIS ACTIVITY MAKES FORECASTING HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY QUITE CHALLENGING. EVEN WITH ALL OF THE ACTIVITY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE LOW 80S AWAY FROM THE GREAT LAKES...HOWEVER A FEW MID 80S ARE A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY IF THE AFOREMENTIONED BREAK IN THE ACTIVITY OCCURS. OVERNIGHT MODELS ARE HINTING AT A BREAK IN THE CONVECTION AS THE SECONDARY JET STREAM MOVES OFF TO THE NORTH WITH NVA PROGGED AT THE 500 MB LEVEL AS THE SURFACE LOW LIFTS OVER THE SOO. EVEN WITH THESE FACTORS THERE IS ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN...SO A COMPLETELY DRY FORECAST IS NOT IN THE CARDS AND NEITHER IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HIGH POPS FROM TODAY. WITH ALL THESE FACTORS IN MIND WILL MAINTAIN CHANCY POPS DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. ABUNDANT CLOUD COVER AND THE REGION STILL IN THE WARM SECTOR WILL ONCE AGAIN LEAD TO A MILD NIGHT WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS EXPECTED IN THE 60S. LONG TERM...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY UPPER LEVEL TROUGHING WILL KEEP MENTION OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AROUND INTO THURSDAY WHICH IS WHEN THE MAIN TROUGH AXIS PASSES EAST OF THE AREA ALLOWING HEIGHTS TO BUILD. MEANWHILE...COMPLEX SFC LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL WORK THROUGH LOWER MI ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY BEFORE A STRONG CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM DROPS INTO THE GREAT LAKES AND EXPANDS ACROSS MUCH OF THE EASTERN CONUS FOR THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. THIS WILL LEAD TO A DRY BUT COOL WEEKEND. FIRST OFF WE WILL ADDRESS CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL FOR WEDNESDAY. THE GFS POORLY INITIALIZES THE SFC LOW OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS SO WILL LEAN MORE TOWARD THE ECMWF/NAM/GEM REGIONAL. THE UPPER LEVEL LOW THAT HAS BEEN SITTING OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS FOR A FEW DAYS NOW WILL PHASE WITH A NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH DIGGING SOUTH THROUGH MANITOBA/ONTARIO ON WEDNESDAY. THIS WILL LEAD TO A MORE PROGRESSIVE SYSTEM FINALLY. WITH THE CLOSED NATURE OF THE UPPER LOW...A FEW SFC LOWS HAVE BEEN ROTATING AROUND EACH OTHER THE LAST TWO DAYS. AS THE WAVE OPENS FURTHER AND THE UPPER JET TURNS WEST/EAST ACROSS NORTHERN MI...THE MAIN SFC LOW WILL RELEASE AND TRACK ACROSS NORTHERN LOWER MI THROUGH THE DAY WEDNESDAY. THIS WILL BE A BROAD WEAKENING LOW BUT WILL PRESENT ISENTROPIC ASCENT AND WILL KEEP THE Theta-e RIDGE UP INTO SE MI. FOCUS WILL BE PLACED ON A SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE THAT WILL ROUND THE BASE OF THE TROUGH AND TARGET LOWER MI WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. MODEL CONSENSUS SHOWS A SFC LOW CLIPPING EXTREME SE MI. THIS WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR ADDITIONAL HEATING AND MOISTURE INTO THAT AREA DURING PEAK AFTERNOON HEATING WITH THE EASTWARD TRACKING UPPER LEVEL JET MORE SQUARELY OVERHEAD. CONVECTIVE PARAMETERS ARE ON THE DECLINE FROM MONDAY AND TUESDAY BUT THERE WILL STILL BE 500 TO 1000 J/KG OF TALL SKINNY MUCAPE WITH A COLD/COOL FRONT PASSING THROUGH THE AREA IN THE EVENING. OVERALL WEDNESDAY LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE COMPOSED OF WIDESPREAD SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITH A CHANCE OF ORGANIZED CONVECTION ACROSS THE EXTREME SE PORTION OF THE CWA. UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AXIS WILL BE OVER WESTERN LOWER MI WEDNESDAY NIGHT PROVIDING BROAD AREA OF LIFT ALOFT WITH THE BACK END OF THE SFC LOW STILL LINGERING. THIS WILL KEEP SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER MUCH OF LOWER MI THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT. THE AXIS WILL SWEEP THROUGH SE MI EARLY ON THURSDAY LEADING TO A CLEARING TREND IN THE SHOWERS THROUGH THE DAY FROM NW TO SE. MAIN BAROCLINIC ZONE THATS BEEN LINGERING ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES WILL SURGE SOUTH ON THURSDAY WITH STRONG CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE RIGHT BEHIND IT. WITH BUILDING HEIGHTS ALOFT...CLOUDS WILL CLEAR OUT BUT THAT WILL NOT BE REALIZED IN TEMPERATURES. 850 MB TEMPS IN THE LOW SINGLE DIGITS WILL ONLY ALLOW HIGH TEMPS TO REACH AROUND 60F BOTH THURSDAY AND FRIDAY WITH LOWS AROUND 40. A SLOW WARMING TREND THROUGH THE WEEKEND WILL ONLY ALLOW TEMPS TO REBOUND TO NEAR 70 FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY. THOUGH IT WILL BE COOL...AT LEAST IT LOOKS TO STAY DRY THOUGHT THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND. MARINE... MODEST SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL REMAIN IN PLACE TODAY AND WEDNESDAY AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM SLOWLY LIFTS EAST OUT OF THE UPPER MIDWEST. A WARM AND UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT WILL BRING A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS DURING THIS TIME. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE NORTH ACROSS ALL WATERS BY THURSDAY MORNING...AS THE LOW AND TRAILING COLD FRONT PUSH OFF TO THE EAST. THESE CONDITIONS WILL PUSH WINDS AND WAVES CLOSE TO SMALL CRAFT CRITERIA ON THURSDAY OVER LAKE HURON. && .DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LAKE HURON...NONE. LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE. MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE. && $$ AVIATION.....MR UPDATE.......MR SHORT TERM...KURIMSKI LONG TERM....DRK MARINE.......KURIMSKI YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/DETROIT (ALL LOWER CASE).