Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Des Moines Iowa 343 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013 Short term.../tonight /... issued at 330 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013 Main concerns tonight will be extent of convection across the forecast area late night and into early morning. Models similar in timing but very little agreement in areal coverage/placement of rainfall overnight so confidence low at this time. Synoptic setup shows approaching h700 shortwave over Panhandle area of Texas/OK now and simple time of arrival tool shows at current speed will arrive into SW counties after 07z and into central Iowa by about 10z...favored time for nocturnal convection. This correlates pretty well with increasing wind fields from the GFS overnight with h850 40kt jet entering area and sufficient speed shear from h700/h500 of 40-60kts respectively from 08-12z. Surface boundary looks to make it as far north as Iowa/MO border by 12z as well. Moisture is quite high for this event with precipitable waters by 12z approaching +90-95% level of climatological maximum and near 2 Standard deviations from normal. Warm cloud depths look fairly impressive with 10-11kft expected late tonight and a good share of Sunday as well. With expected short wave and forecast conditions...have some concerns about locally heavy rainfall and potential for isolated flash flooding over the west/southwest areas should mesoscale convective system hold together as it tracks northeast. Current 3 hour gridded flash flood guidance of +2-3 inches remains pretty high over much of southern 2 tier counties...but west of i35 and areas north of there have lower values of 1.75 to 2 inches in general. With high precipitable waters and significant warm cloud depths combined with short wave we cloud see isolated rainfall amounts of 1 to 2+ inches over the southwest to central counties by 12z...within track of mesoscale convective system. The challenge remains however...in that the 4 km WRF and hrrr will need to watch this through evening to see how situation evolves. Lows overnight will be quite mild again with increasing moisture putting a cap on mins in the lower to middle 60s. Some concern remains about potential for severe overnight...but if any occurs will be mainly for large hail over the west. Long term.../Sunday through Saturday/... issued at 330 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013 Main forecast concern remains focused on active weather pattern developing over the next several days. Models in good agreement through early in the week with cutoff low lingering through Thursday. Leaned a blend of the nam12 and arw-WRF for timing and trends tomorrow into tomorrow night...then a GFS/European model (ecmwf) through midweek. Sunday into Monday...strong 500mb trough digs into the Central Plains tonight and slowly make its was into the Midwest by tomorrow. First shortwave that may spawn thunderstorms overnight tonight lingers into northern Iowa through Sunday morning and diminish as the low level jet decreases. Decreased probability of precipitation across the south considerably until the late afternoon before redevelopment by the afternoon before next shortwave ejects across the Central Plains and into MO/Iowa by 00z Monday. Destabilization occurs late Sunday morning and into the afternoon as the 0-3km ml cape increases to 800 to near 2000 j/kg over central and southern Iowa by 00z Monday with break between shortwaves. Surface based cape increases to over 2500 j/kg by the same time and location. Low level shear more favorable for tornadic development across far southwest Iowa where 0-1km shear increase to 20-25 knots...more in the 10 to 15 knots range further north. Deep layer shear favorable for long lived storms late tomorrow afternoon into the evening hours. Kept mention of severe weather for southern portions of the forecast area Sunday late afternoon and into the evening. In addition to severe potential...heavy rain looks imminent as well with warm layer cloud depths ranging around 11000 feet and precipitable water values in the 1.5 to 1.75 inch range. Corfidi vectors indicating training storms tomorrow night leading to flash flooding potential. Storms look to push into northern Iowa early Monday morning and lowered probability of precipitation in central and southern Iowa. Tuesday through Saturday...upper low becomes cutoff and lingers over the region before finally moves east by Thursday morning. Severe weather chances look minimal...but additional periods of rain are likely into Thursday. Temperatures look to be near or slightly below normal by Wednesday and through late in the week. && Aviation...18/18z issued at 1246 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013 Overnight concerns regarding convection and overall coverage. Models suggesting mesoscale convective system development near/in area by 10-15z Sunday but placement somewhat challenging for now. Have considered warm air advection and nose of increasing southerly jet with warm frontal placement...all pointing to development affecting either kdsm or kfod greater than areas east/north. Thus...for now have increased likelihood of thunderstorms and rain at those two sites for early morning hours. Winds will likely remain just under 12kt overnight with increasing southerly flow after 04z. With overnight convection... begin to expect the mesoscale convective system to diminish toward the end of period as jet weakens after 12z. Next round of convection more likely late afternoon or after 20/00z as shortwave approaches from west. && Dmx watches/warnings/advisories...none. && $$ Short term...rev long term...podrazik aviation...rev