Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Duluth Minnesota 
501 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013 


Update... 
updated to add dense fog advisory in twin ports area and North 
Shore where visibilities have been at or below 1/2 mile. Coq and gna have 
reported zero at times. Expect this continue through the night. 


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Previous discussion... /issued 424 PM CDT Sat may 18 2013/ 


Short term...tonight and Sunday... 
low level warm frontal zone has become well established along and 
just south of the i94 corridor late this afternoon. Areas along 
and north of this frontal zone will be the focus area for 
additional showers and thunderstorms overnight and Sunday morning. 


By late this evening and 30-40 knots southerly low level jet will 
develop and interact with the frontal zone. This will enhance 
warm/moist advection in the lowest levels..and also result in 
increased frontogenetic forcing for mesoscale ascent. The result 
is expected to be redevelopment of rather widespread 
showers/thunderstorms overnight. Influx of 1.5 to 1.7 inch precipitation water 
amounts /almost 300% of climatology normals for middle may/ further 
supports heavy rainfall potential overnight/Sunday morning. 
Thus..we have hoisted a Flash Flood Watch for Cass/Crow 
Wing/Aitkin counties where 1-3 inches of rain already fell this 
morning. There is still some uncertainty as to the exact location 
where storms will redevelop..so the watch may need to be 
adjusted/expanded according to convective trends later this 
evening. 


Large scale trough and surface low will continue to slowly deepen 
while moving toward Minnesota on Sunday..with little northward 
progress of the warm front. Thus..there should be a continued flux 
of warm/moist/unstable air into the region supporting additional 
showers/tstorms. Also..as surface low deepens to our southwest and 
high pressure builds northeast of Lake Superior..easterly gradient 
should allow for fairly gusty east-northeast winds in vicinity of Lake Superior later 
Sunday. In general..we went below guidance on temperatures..as 
combination of clouds/precipitation and easterly flow favor smaller 
diurnal temperature range for Sunday. The one exception is the far southeast 
portion of the County Warning Area..which could get into the surface warm sector 
Sunday afternoon with temperatures/dewpoints reaching the lower 80s 
/Lower-Middle 60s. 


Long term...Sunday night through Saturday... 
focus during this period will continue to be on the very slow 
moving low pressure system. The models are in decent 
agreement...with a general consensus of the surface and upper low 
over the South Dakota/Nebraska area at 00z Monday. They only then 
move it slowly east by 00z Wednesday...placing the low anywhere from 
southwest Minnesota...to the Nebraska/Iowa border depending on the 
model. What these means for most of the Northland is plenty of 
rain and thunderstorms Sunday night through Wednesday...although 
chances will diminish across the north Tuesday into Wednesday. 
Plenty of moisture will remain over the region with precipitable water values 
from 1.25 to around 1.50 inches. This will provide plenty fuel for 
rain. 


Significant rainfall is looking likely Sunday night into 
Wednesday...and this is on top of rain that fell last night/today 
and is expected tonight/Sunday. Another 1 to 3 inches of 
rain...possibly more given the possibility of thunderstorms and 
training storms...is expected Sunday night into Tuesday evening. 
We've already seen a sharp rise in the rivers over far northern 
Wisconsin. The threat for some flooding is increasing...but the 
extent is difficult to determine at this point. There is a Flash 
Flood Watch for portions of the Northland tonight...and additional 
watches may be needed Sunday night into early next week depending on 
how things develop tonight into Sunday. 


Precipitation chances should diminish significantly Wednesday night...with 
most areas dry Thursday. 


Ridging will provide dry conditions over much of the region Thursday 
into Friday night. We bring in a chance for showers into our far 
west next Saturday...but the 12z European model (ecmwf) is slower and would suggest 
another dry day. 


Aviation...18z taf issuance... 
much of the Northland was under IFR or low MVFR ceilings with 
light rain/drizzle. Dense fog was occurring around Lake Superior 
as well with a moist onshore flow. We expect the current rain to 
continue to move east and north this afternoon...with 
redevelopment likely later this afternoon into tonight. Moist flow 
over a warm front which remains to the south of the Northland will 
become a focus for more showers/storms today. Various models 
support development over the Dakotas/Minnesota border region...then they 
move the showers/storms east/northeast. 


We did increase visibilities at kdlh around 21z...but confidence in this 
is lower than average. We followed the rap...as it showed middle- 
upper level clouds diminishing and that should allow the sun to 
work on the stratus and may be enough to boost visibilities. We think fog 
will come back in again this evening lower visibilities again. 


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Point temps/pops... 
dlh 50 61 50 53 / 90 80 80 80 
inl 52 62 52 58 / 80 80 70 70 
brd 61 71 57 66 / 90 80 80 80 
hyr 61 76 61 74 / 60 80 70 80 
asx 53 65 52 59 / 60 70 80 80 


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Dlh watches/warnings/advisories... 
Minnesota...Flash Flood Watch from 9 PM CDT this evening through Sunday 
afternoon for mnz025-033>036. 


Dense fog advisory until 10 am CDT Sunday for mnz020-021-037. 


WI...dense fog advisory until 10 am CDT Sunday for wiz001. 


Ls...none. 
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Short term...clc/Miller 
long term....melde