Area forecast discussion National Weather Service La Crosse WI 613 PM CDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 Short term...(tonight through saturday) issued at 303 PM CDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 Main forecast concerns are precipitation chances and potential severe with thunderstorms through period. Latest water vapor satellite imagery indicates shortwave ridging over eastern half of Minnesota and western Wisconsin and upper level trough digging over the western United States. Latest 19z surface analysis show surface ridge over northern Michigan and allowing for partly sunny skies across much of the forecast area...per latest visible satellite imagery. The 19.12z GFS/NAM are in good agreement digging upper level trough over western United States and developing southwesterly flow aloft over the central United States. Big concern will be timing of the series of shortwave troughs ejecting out into the upper Midwest tonight into Saturday. The 19.12z GFS/NAM handle the first couple of shortwaves through 00z Friday okay...then after 00z Friday flow becomes muddled with mesoscale complex vorticies and confidence in timing of shortwave troughs becomes very low. Tonight into Thursday...first impulse to push over the area after 06z Thursday. The 19.12z GFS/NAM show weak moisture transport in association with the shortwave trough and the latest 19.12z arw/19.17z hrrr produce convection over parts of Minnesota after 06z Thursday. This convection moves east over parts of the forecast area. Expect some scattered showers and thunderstorms across the by 12z Thursday and continue during the daytime hours. The latest 19.12z GFS/NAM indicate several impulses to eject out into the upper Midwest Thursday night into Saturday and to affect portions of the forecast area. The concern will be timing and placement of each individual impulse into the region during this timeframe. The 19.12z deterministic models show decent surge of moisture transport and lift in association with each shortwave troughs. Confidence is increasing the forecast area will receive showers and thunderstorms...hence have increased precipitation chances especially Thursday night. The latest 19.12z GFS/NAM continue to show lack of deep shear with up to 30 knots of 0-6km wind shear from Thursday into Saturday. The deterministic models indicate around 30 knots of 0-3km shear... with increasing low level moisture...instability will increase over the area. This will allow for the potential of some of the complex of thunderstorms to become severe with damaging winds the main threat. Precipitable water values will increase to 1.5 to 2 inches across the forecast area Thursday into Saturday. If any of the thunderstorms move over the same area...flash flooding will be a concern. Long term...(saturday night through wednesday) issued at 303 PM CDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 Main forecast concerns are precipitation chances and temperatures through the period. The 19.12z GFS/ECMWF/Gem are in good agreement in carving out upper level trough over the western United States and continue southwesterly flow aloft over the central United States through 00z Tuesday. Then...the deterministic models begin to build upper level ridge over the western United States for Tuesday and Wednesday. Biggest difference between the models is timing the embedded shortwave troughs in the southwesterly flow aloft into the region through the period. This will have impacts on the strength of the upper level ridge...as the deterministic models suggest ridge flattening out over the northern tier states Tuesday and Wednesday. With the uncertainty on timing of shortwave troughs into the forecast area...will continue with chances of precipitation through the period. Next concern are temperatures through period... the 19.12z deterministic models show 925mb plus 20 to plus 25 degrees celsius over forecast area through much of the period...with the warmest air filtering into the forecast area Tuesday...where the 19.12z European model (ecmwf) indicates plus 26 degrees celsius over forecast area at 00z Wednesday. This would suggest around 90 degree high temperatures across forecast area Tuesday. && Aviation...(for the 00z tafs through 00z Thursday evening) issued at 613 PM CDT Wednesday Jun 19 2013 The main concern is whether any convection is going to impact the taf sites during the period. Isolated convection is developing over eastern South Dakota and Nebraska ahead of an approaching short wave trough. As the low level jet intensifies this evening...this convection is expected to become more widespread and begin moving east. The best low level moisture transport is not shown by the models to move east with the short wave trough which makes it rather unclear how much of the convection will survive once it moves out of the moisture feed and cape axis. For this reason...have continued to show only some vcsh for late tonight into Thursday morning. Similar concerns for Thursday afternoon as the next short wave trough starts to approach the area. By late afternoon...the 19.18z NAM suggests there should be between 500 and 1000 j/kg of ml cape over the area with an increase in moisture transport. The main area of moisture transport will be off to the west...but the eastern and convergent edge of this may be over the area. Varied ideas as to whether the convection will initiate to the west of the area...or near the area on a boundary left behind by the morning activity as suggested by the 19.12z hi-res nmm. For now...have opted to included a thunderstorms in the vicinity for the late afternoon to show the possibility of some storms developing. && Arx watches/warnings/advisories... WI...none. Minnesota...none. Iowa...none. && $$ Short term...dtj long term....dtj aviation...04