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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service La Crosse WI 
341 am CDT Monday may 20 2013 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 341 am CDT Monday may 20 2013 


Main forecast concern is on severe weather and flooding potential 
today. 


Currently as of 08z...water vapor loop and rap 500mb height analysis 
showed an upper low over South Dakota and Nebraska with ridging 
ahead of it over Michigan. The upper low was mostly cut off with 
ridging to its north over south central Canada. 500mb Standard 
deviations were 1-1.5 below normal with the upper low. Numerous 
shortwaves were ejecting in southwest flow ahead of the upper 
low...some of which are convectively produced. One for example was 
lifting through northwest Wisconsin which brought rain to much of 
the area during the nighttime hours. Rap data also showed a low 
level moisture transport zone with this mesoscale convective vortex. Farther south...another 
low level moisture transport zone was noted in southern Missouri... 
pointing into southern Illinois. Combination of subsidence in the 
wake of the mesoscale convective vortex and split in moisture transport has allowed the 
precipitation to diminish south of Highway 29. Plentiful moisture coming 
up ahead of the upper low with precipitable water values of 1.2-1.5 
inches from eastern OK into soutehrn WI. There was a minima of 
precipitable water from western Kansas into much of Iowa...though.... 
associated with a dry slot south of the upper low. At the 
surface...low pressure was situated under the upper low with a warm 
front extending east to Eau Claire WI. Rap 850mb temperatures were in the 
14-18c range south of the front in the forecast area. 


Models are in good agreement of keeping the upper low nearly 
stationary over South Dakota. Despite its stationary movement...the 
weather will be quite a bit different compared to yesterday. 
Primarily this is due to the upper flow ahead of the upper low 
prognosticated more southwesterly versus southerly. Additionally...the 
plume of higher precipitable water is prognosticated to slowly shift east 
thanks to the upper low. 


Most of the forecast area is indicated to stay in the warm sector 
through tonight...along with existing in that southwest flow for 
shortwaves to come through...both favorable for thunderstorm 
development. However...one question mark is moisture. Based on a 
amdar sounding out of Omaha at 04z...the 850mb dewpoints from the 
20.00z NAM were 6-7c too high...thus the NAM builds a lot of cape 
quickly this morning. The rap is much more subdued having the area 
encompassed by the dry air...especially when looking at MLCAPE. 
Thinking the rap idea is much more representative and have kept the 
area dry through early afternoon. Eventually...the rap does catch up 
with the cape late in the afternoon thanks to evapotransporation of 
moist soils. In fact...the rap shows a definitive dry line in the 
warm sector forming near I-35 in the afternoon. This dry line should 
serve as a trigger for convective development...especially in 
southeast Minnesota and northeast Iowa. Majority of models...including hi 
resolution ones...show this scenario...with the thunderstorms then 
propagating northeast through the evening. The best 0-6km shear of 
greater than 35 kts is prognosticated over the southeast half of the 
forecast area...opposite of where most of the convection will be. On 
the other hand...freezing level heights are lower on the order of 
10500 feet where the convection is expected...thus there could end up 
being marginally severe hail. Storms should gradually weaken as 
instability wanes late in the evening into the overnight hours. It 
should be noted...if for some reason a storm fires in the higher 
0-6km shear area this afternoon...it would likely become 
supercellular. Again...though...think this is a low probability with 
that area perhaps even being capped. See the hydrology section below 
for flooding concerns. 


Certaintly the additional rain from storms this afternoon and early 
evening will not help the flooding matters in portions of southeast 
Minnesota and northeast Iowa. Have kept the Flash Flood Watch going 
to 00z this evening...which works out well in terms of time because 
the convection should mostly be east of there by the expiration. 


Should see quite a bit of sun today and with 850mb temperatures hovering in 
that 14-18c range...temperatures should easily climb into the upper 
70s to middle 80s. Another mild night likely tonight with plenty of 
clouds and dewpoints remaining up in the 50s to low 60s. 


Long term...(tuesday through sunday) 
issued at 341 am CDT Monday may 20 2013 


Tuesday through Thursday... 
main focus here is on the evolution of the upper low. 20.00z 
European model (ecmwf)/GFS/Canadian/NAM are all in pretty good agreement holding the 
upper low nearly stationary on Tuesday...then gradually shifting 
eastward Tuesday night and Wednesday before it gets more of a kick 
east Wednesday night. The kick east is in response to a potent 
trough dropping south through much of eastern Canada. 


For Tuesday...much of the forecast area west of the Mississippi 
River looks to be dry-slotted...thus have lowered precipitation 
chances. To the east...there are indications that some diurnal 
convection could form along a cold front marching east. Instability 
is pretty meager in this case compared to what we have been dealing 
with...thus any convection should not go severe. Better shot for 
severe weather will be well south and east of the forecast area. 
Highest precipitation chances overall are expected north of Highway 29 
in a low to middle level frontogenesis zone. 


As the upper low begins to push east towards the forecast area 
Tuesday night and Wednesday...DPVA increases while simultaneously 
the low to middle level frontogenesis zone drops south. Therefore... 
increasing precipitation chances seem reasonable... especially on 
Wednesday when the two forcing mechanisms are juxtaposted. 
Additionally...there could be some diurnal enhancement on Wednesday 
being close to or under the cold core of the upper low. 


Models appear to be trending faster in kicking out the upper low for 
Wednesday night and Thursday...enough so that Thursday may now end 
up dry. Wednesday night still looks favorable for precipitation... 
especially east of the Mississippi River which is in that 
aforementioned juxtaposition of forcing mechanisms. 


Definitely a cooling trend will take place for Tuesday through 
Thursday with that upper low coming in...and then come Thursday a 
northerly flow advecting air from Canadian high pressure trying to 
build south into the upper Great Lakes. 850mb temperatures fall from 11-13c 
at 12z Tuesday to 4-6c by 12z Thursday. Went with a blend of guidance for 
highs and lows for now given no signal to lean towards warmer or 
colder scenario given the forecast pattern. 


Thursday night into next weekend... 
20.00z European model (ecmwf)/GFS/Canadian and GFS ensembles continue to advertise a 
blocked up upper level flow pattern across North America during the 
extended portion of the forecast. The flow features deep troughing 
along the West Coast...ridging from the plains into the northwest 
territories...and mean troughing from eastern Canada into the 
middle-Atlantic region. What this pattern means for the forecast area 
is a battle between dry...Canadian high pressure and a more humid 
airmass advecting north out of the Gulf of Mexico under the upper 
ridge. It appears dry conditions should prevail for Thursday night 
and Friday...resulting from subsidence in the wake of the early to 
middle week upper low. From Friday night and beyond...have followed a 
consensus approach and spread precipitation chances across the 
forecast area...highest west of the Mississippi River. These chances 
are a result of surges of warm advection. The precipitation could 
become enhanced too at times as jet streaks propagate between the 
eastern Canada trough and plains ridging. 


Something to watch during the extended is potential for frost... 
especially in central Wisconsin. Thursday night according to 20.00z 
models would be the highest chance...though confidence is not high 
enough to either mention frost in the forecast or drop lows below 
40. Otherwise...temperatures should stay mostly below normal being 
under the influence of the Canadian high and a northeast flow. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 06z tafs through 06z Monday night) 
issued at 115 am CDT Monday may 20 2013 


It appears the last surge of rain and thunderstorms are moving 
north through the taf sites at this time and for the next few 
hours. Moderate rain and MVFR ceilings/visibilities will clear as the rain 
moves off to the north. A clearing trend is expected with VFR 
expected for the daylight hours. 


Instability will again build over the taf sites and set the stage 
for late afternoon and evening thunderstorms and rain chances. For now have included 
a thunderstorms in the vicinity and future forecasts can refine the timing at the taf 
sites. Monday afternoon and evening thunderstorms and rain coverage is not expected 
to be as widespread or affect the taf sites as long as the 
activity Sunday night. 




&& 


Hydrology... 
issued at 341 am CDT Monday may 20 2013 


Multiple days of heavy rain across portions of southeast Minnesota 
and northeast Iowa has really lowered the threshold for flooding. A 
stripe from Mitchell County Iowa through Mower...western Fillmore and 
Olmsted counties were especially hard hit from yesterday\s rain. 
Report from Mitchell County Iowa emergency manager at 330 am was that 
most main roads are closed due to high water and many side roads are 
washed out. Thus...the area that was put in a Flash Flood Watch 
yesterday cannot handle any more rain. See latest areal and river 
flood statements for more information. 


On a positive note...the deep moisture that was present to allow the 
storms to produce such heavy rain is shifting off to the east. 
Additionally...even though some thunderstorms are expected this 
afternoon...there looks to be enough upper level flow to keep them 
moving to the east. Thus...not anticipating any widespread flooding. 
Will need to keep the Flash Flood Watch going...though...because as 
mentioned earlier the area has been so hard hit any rain will cause 
a problem. 


Additional rainfall is possible Tuesday through Wednesday 
night...though Tuesday is trending drier for southeast Minnesota and 
northeast Iowa. Hopefully the drier period from tonight through 
Tuesday will allow the flood threat to diminish...though river 
flooding may take a little longer to end. 


&& 


Arx watches/warnings/advisories... 
WI...none. 
Minnesota...Flash Flood Watch through this evening for mnz079-086-087-094- 
095. 


Iowa...Flash Flood Watch through this evening for iaz008. 


&& 


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Short term...aj 
long term...aj 
aviation...baumgardt 
hydrology...aj