Scientific Forecaster Discussion

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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service La Crosse WI 
647 am CDT sun may 19 2013 


Short term...(today and tonight) 
issued at 318 am CDT sun may 19 2013 


It still appears ample instability will be around by afternoon 
over the forecast area....however a clear trigger and focus for 
thunderstorms and severe weather is still not clear. 


At 08z the High Plains convection continues to shift east across 
Iowa...being fueled by a maritime tropical air mass surge as 
pressures fall in response to the initial shortwave trough 
ejecting north from the long wave trough over the intermountain. 
Currently the trough is over northestern Colorado per GOES water vapor imagery. 
Another piece of energy is over the western Texas Panhandle and will 
arrive this evening. 00z radiosonde observation data indicates that maritime 
tropical air mass well...with an axis of 1.25 to 1.50 inch 
precipitable water values from Omaha to Springfield /170 percent 
normal/. This is compared to 1.00 to 1.25 inches msp-dvn. This air 
mass arrives over the forecast area today with surface dewpoints 
the highest of the year...in the middle to upper 60s. 88d wind 
profilers showing an increasing low- level jet across 
Iowa...converging into Minnesota. This trajectory is not lifting 
adiabatically however...with little temperature gradient through 
that area. The convergence and instability is fueling the storms. 
A few warnings have been issued recently for hail. Wind shear is 
weaker so isolated large hail is really all we would expect. 


Have been monitoring the hrrr runs all evening and until the 
19.03z run...a very consistent signal was present of bringing the 
convection into the western forecast area around 12z. Have slowly 
stepped up the rain chances based on the low-level jet and 
moisture transport convergence in concert with increasing cape as 
that moist air mass begins its influence. Currently MUCAPES of 
around 1000 j/kg are west of the miss river...but this is likely 
to increase overnight and probably be in the 1300 j/kg range by 
dawn. 


The moisture surge and transport shift northward and begin what 
appears to be a longer term focus of convergence northwest of the 
forecast area. This afternoon it appears the model guidance is 
consistent in a fairly uniform southeast flow over the forecast 
area...with convergence across northern WI to central Minnesota...along the 
stationary boundary. With very high moisture in place and some 
heating...we will build some higher MLCAPES around 1800 j/kg 
quickly /maybe 3000 j/kg SBCAPE/. This using a 67f dewpoint. 


The wind shear over the area has been consistently forecast below 
supercell thresholds this afternoon with most of the shear a 
moderate 30-35kts from 0-3km and little increase above. This would 
favor cold pool systems and bowing wind segments. The 19.00z NAM 
is a bit of an outlier suggesting stronger winds aloft further 
north...in the supercell range. Have stayed the course with a 
weaker gradient aloft with the low center still far west. So the 
threats continue to be damaging wind and large hail. Flash 
flooding could also be a problem...see hydrology section. An 
isolated tornado is possible too. 


The main problem right now seems to be the lack of a good trigger 
this afternoon. The boundary layer flow is a uniform southeast and 
little convergence is seen in the area. Thus...any boundary that 
does present itself could trigger initiation as there will be no 
cap in place. With such vigorous convection in KS/OK...upstream of 
the area...we could see a convective vorticity maximum appear in the 
flow and possibly become an initiator. The hrrr and hi res nmm seem 
to be hinting at this solution later afternoon. 


This evening...as strong energy rotates northeast...currently in 
West Texas...the low-level jet in the 19.00z NAM excites and a nice 
convergent low-level jet develops convection over Iowa and moves 
it northward. The 19.00z GFS does not agree on this with its focus 
north again on the northwestern WI-central Minnesota boundary. But the hi res 00z 
runs...using the NAM as initialization and boundary 
conditions...bring widespread convection in from Iowa. There is 
better jet dynamics and transport in the NAM..and this seems 
reasonable...thus..have continued to hit the evening 
hard...evolving the weather north by morning. The 19.00z Gem and European model (ecmwf) 
agree well with this scenario. So...looking for a wet overnight. 
There is still instability overnight...2k MUCAPE...and a bit 
better shear. 


Bottom line is that the daytime hours may be pretty clean because 
of lack of a thunderstorm trigger. If an mesoscale convective vortex from OK/Kansas can 
develop thunderstorms and rain and the thunderstorms and rain can root itself in the boundary layer 
over Iowa...or some boundary exists...chances increase for afternoon 
severe weather...as the air mass will be weakly capped. This 
evening seems to promote increasing rain and thunderstorms with 
still some severe potential until the cape is used up...but not 
quite as widespread as an afternoon event. 


Long term...(monday through saturday) 
issued at 318 am CDT sun may 19 2013 


As the low draws closer Monday...shear increases to supercell 
strength...but again it may be difficult to identify a trigger 
with little surface boundary action in the area. The stationary 
boundary remains to the northwest with the best convergence. However...with 
the surface low expected to be near kfsd...and ample MLCAPE again 
near 2000 j/kg...storms look to form to the west and move into the 
area Tuesday evening. However...this pattern is so uncapped and 
unstable...we found it hard to get detailed on timing anywhere. 
Monday still has the potential for severe weather...and it looks 
like the evening hours. With increased wind shear...rotating 
storms are possible and thus large hail and wind. An isolated 
tornado cannot be ruled out but the wind environment doesnt look 
overly favorable. 


The low continues to shift slowly east and provide rain threats 
that are difficult to target through Thursday. Some drier air begins to 
shift into the area on southwest flow off The Rockies on 
Tuesday...and somewhat cooler air. This will end the severe 
weather threat. 


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Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Monday morning) 
issued at 646 am CDT sun may 19 2013 


A weakening line of showers and a few thunderstorms will move into 
western Wisconsin around 19.12z. This line is not causing any 
visibility restrictions or a wind shift. In addition...the 
ceilings will remain VFR. Mesoscale models suggest that several lines 
of showers and thunderstorms will move through the taf sites this 
afternoon and tonight. The only time period that seems to be 
consistent in timing is the one that moves through between 19.18z 
and 19... included some thunderstorms during this time 
period. A few of these storms may even become severe with large 
hail and damaging winds being the primary concern. Beyond this 
time period...the timing is very inconsistent...so just went with 
showers for now. 


&& 


Hydrology... 
issued at 318 am CDT sun may 19 2013 


Hydrology...the probabilities have tipped toward a Flash Flood Watch 
for 3 PM today through Monday. There are too many variables in 
play that suggest heavy rainfall and flooding potential including 
soil moisture centered over southeastern Minnesota abnormally high...fridays 
rainfall having higher end flooding outcomes in southeastern 
Minnesota...precipitable water values over 150 percent normal moving 
in...SBCAPE building during the day to near 3k /ml near 1800/ 
based on 67f dew point...and forcing increasing during the evening 
with stronger moisture transport convergence and shear moving into 
the area. 


This Flash Flood Watch may be expanded and possibly extended into 
Monday night should details suggest the flooding threat could 
remain. There is some suggestion that the very high precipitable 
water moist conveyor belt would shift into WI as a drier rockies air 
mass advects in on southwesterly flow. 


Rivers in the watch area would also see rapid rises aside from the 
flash flooding effects. 


&& 


Arx watches/warnings/advisories... 
WI...none. 
Minnesota...Flash Flood Watch from 3 PM CDT this afternoon through Monday 
evening for mnz079-086-087-094-095. 


Iowa...Flash Flood Watch from 3 PM CDT this afternoon through Monday 
evening for iaz008. 


&& 


$$ 


Short term...baumgardt 
long term...baumgardt 
aviation...boyne 
hydrology...baumgardt