Area forecast discussion National Weather Service La Crosse WI 647 am CDT sun may 19 2013 Short term...(today and tonight) issued at 318 am CDT sun may 19 2013 It still appears ample instability will be around by afternoon over the forecast area....however a clear trigger and focus for thunderstorms and severe weather is still not clear. At 08z the High Plains convection continues to shift east across Iowa...being fueled by a maritime tropical air mass surge as pressures fall in response to the initial shortwave trough ejecting north from the long wave trough over the intermountain. Currently the trough is over northestern Colorado per GOES water vapor imagery. Another piece of energy is over the western Texas Panhandle and will arrive this evening. 00z radiosonde observation data indicates that maritime tropical air mass well...with an axis of 1.25 to 1.50 inch precipitable water values from Omaha to Springfield /170 percent normal/. This is compared to 1.00 to 1.25 inches msp-dvn. This air mass arrives over the forecast area today with surface dewpoints the highest of the year...in the middle to upper 60s. 88d wind profilers showing an increasing low- level jet across Iowa...converging into Minnesota. This trajectory is not lifting adiabatically however...with little temperature gradient through that area. The convergence and instability is fueling the storms. A few warnings have been issued recently for hail. Wind shear is weaker so isolated large hail is really all we would expect. Have been monitoring the hrrr runs all evening and until the 19.03z run...a very consistent signal was present of bringing the convection into the western forecast area around 12z. Have slowly stepped up the rain chances based on the low-level jet and moisture transport convergence in concert with increasing cape as that moist air mass begins its influence. Currently MUCAPES of around 1000 j/kg are west of the miss river...but this is likely to increase overnight and probably be in the 1300 j/kg range by dawn. The moisture surge and transport shift northward and begin what appears to be a longer term focus of convergence northwest of the forecast area. This afternoon it appears the model guidance is consistent in a fairly uniform southeast flow over the forecast area...with convergence across northern WI to central Minnesota...along the stationary boundary. With very high moisture in place and some heating...we will build some higher MLCAPES around 1800 j/kg quickly /maybe 3000 j/kg SBCAPE/. This using a 67f dewpoint. The wind shear over the area has been consistently forecast below supercell thresholds this afternoon with most of the shear a moderate 30-35kts from 0-3km and little increase above. This would favor cold pool systems and bowing wind segments. The 19.00z NAM is a bit of an outlier suggesting stronger winds aloft further north...in the supercell range. Have stayed the course with a weaker gradient aloft with the low center still far west. So the threats continue to be damaging wind and large hail. Flash flooding could also be a problem...see hydrology section. An isolated tornado is possible too. The main problem right now seems to be the lack of a good trigger this afternoon. The boundary layer flow is a uniform southeast and little convergence is seen in the area. Thus...any boundary that does present itself could trigger initiation as there will be no cap in place. With such vigorous convection in KS/OK...upstream of the area...we could see a convective vorticity maximum appear in the flow and possibly become an initiator. The hrrr and hi res nmm seem to be hinting at this solution later afternoon. This evening...as strong energy rotates northeast...currently in West Texas...the low-level jet in the 19.00z NAM excites and a nice convergent low-level jet develops convection over Iowa and moves it northward. The 19.00z GFS does not agree on this with its focus north again on the northwestern WI-central Minnesota boundary. But the hi res 00z runs...using the NAM as initialization and boundary conditions...bring widespread convection in from Iowa. There is better jet dynamics and transport in the NAM..and this seems reasonable...thus..have continued to hit the evening hard...evolving the weather north by morning. The 19.00z Gem and European model (ecmwf) agree well with this scenario. So...looking for a wet overnight. There is still instability overnight...2k MUCAPE...and a bit better shear. Bottom line is that the daytime hours may be pretty clean because of lack of a thunderstorm trigger. If an mesoscale convective vortex from OK/Kansas can develop thunderstorms and rain and the thunderstorms and rain can root itself in the boundary layer over Iowa...or some boundary exists...chances increase for afternoon severe weather...as the air mass will be weakly capped. This evening seems to promote increasing rain and thunderstorms with still some severe potential until the cape is used up...but not quite as widespread as an afternoon event. Long term...(monday through saturday) issued at 318 am CDT sun may 19 2013 As the low draws closer Monday...shear increases to supercell strength...but again it may be difficult to identify a trigger with little surface boundary action in the area. The stationary boundary remains to the northwest with the best convergence. However...with the surface low expected to be near kfsd...and ample MLCAPE again near 2000 j/kg...storms look to form to the west and move into the area Tuesday evening. However...this pattern is so uncapped and unstable...we found it hard to get detailed on timing anywhere. Monday still has the potential for severe weather...and it looks like the evening hours. With increased wind shear...rotating storms are possible and thus large hail and wind. An isolated tornado cannot be ruled out but the wind environment doesnt look overly favorable. The low continues to shift slowly east and provide rain threats that are difficult to target through Thursday. Some drier air begins to shift into the area on southwest flow off The Rockies on Tuesday...and somewhat cooler air. This will end the severe weather threat. && Aviation...(for the 12z tafs through 12z Monday morning) issued at 646 am CDT sun may 19 2013 A weakening line of showers and a few thunderstorms will move into western Wisconsin around 19.12z. This line is not causing any visibility restrictions or a wind shift. In addition...the ceilings will remain VFR. Mesoscale models suggest that several lines of showers and thunderstorms will move through the taf sites this afternoon and tonight. The only time period that seems to be consistent in timing is the one that moves through between 19.18z and 19... included some thunderstorms during this time period. A few of these storms may even become severe with large hail and damaging winds being the primary concern. Beyond this time period...the timing is very inconsistent...so just went with showers for now. && Hydrology... issued at 318 am CDT sun may 19 2013 Hydrology...the probabilities have tipped toward a Flash Flood Watch for 3 PM today through Monday. There are too many variables in play that suggest heavy rainfall and flooding potential including soil moisture centered over southeastern Minnesota abnormally high...fridays rainfall having higher end flooding outcomes in southeastern Minnesota...precipitable water values over 150 percent normal moving in...SBCAPE building during the day to near 3k /ml near 1800/ based on 67f dew point...and forcing increasing during the evening with stronger moisture transport convergence and shear moving into the area. This Flash Flood Watch may be expanded and possibly extended into Monday night should details suggest the flooding threat could remain. There is some suggestion that the very high precipitable water moist conveyor belt would shift into WI as a drier rockies air mass advects in on southwesterly flow. Rivers in the watch area would also see rapid rises aside from the flash flooding effects. && Arx watches/warnings/advisories... WI...none. Minnesota...Flash Flood Watch from 3 PM CDT this afternoon through Monday evening for mnz079-086-087-094-095. Iowa...Flash Flood Watch from 3 PM CDT this afternoon through Monday evening for iaz008. && $$ Short term...baumgardt long term...baumgardt aviation...boyne hydrology...baumgardt