Scientific Forecaster Discussion

NWS Discussion
			
				

Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Albany New York 
1038 am EDT Thursday may 23 2013 


Synopsis... 
a cold front will move slowly across the region this 
afternoon into tonight...and stall along the Atlantic Seaboard 
Friday. Low pressure will organize...intensify...and linger on this 
front near the New England coast much of the weekend. High pressure 
will build into the eastern Great Lakes Memorial Day and drift over 
our region into midweek with fair and dry weather. 


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Near term /through tonight/... 
as of 1030 am EDT...a cold front remains west of the region over 
the Ohio Valley and the eastern Great Lakes region this 
morning...with a prefrontal trough moving across west-central New York and 
PA. This prefrontal trough in the warm sector has produced scattered 
showers over the southern dacks and west-central Mohawk Valley...and other 
showers have blossomed over the lower to middle Hudson Valley in 
advance of the middle level short-wave. Probability of precipitation have been readjusted to 
likely values over the southern tier. 


The satellite picture is cluttered with cloud cover which will 
inhibit widespread convection at this time. Dewpoints remain in the 
u50s to m60s...so any holes in the cloud cover may allow sbcapes 
values of 500-1000 j/kg to develop. The middle level lapse rates look 
poor at this time...but the better upper level jet dynamics arrive 
in the late PM and evening /our forecast area gets in the right 
rear quadrant of the jet streak/...and the deep shear strengthens to 
40-50 kts...especially from the capital region northward between 18z- 
00z. The amount of heating and surface destabilization remains the 
question for the possibility of severe thunderstorms. No enhanced 
wording in the zones and grids yet. Some multicells evolving into 
lines and bands look possible based on the model soundings and 
hodographs. 


The Flash Flood Watch remains up for the northern half of the forecast 
area. Zonal ffg values in the 1/3/6 hour time frame have lowered to 
1-2 inches over portions of the capital region and southern Vermont due to 
the heavy rains the past few days. The slow movement of the 
boundary coupled with the anomalous precipitable water values could produce some 
flash flooding in a few spots. 


Temperatures look on track with maxes in the 70s to around 80. 


Showers and thunderstorms should evolve into just an areas of steady 
rain late tonight as the low level cooling gradually spreads 
east...and the strengthening upper feature begins to cut off and 
track along the northeast coast tomorrow into the weekend. 


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Short term /Friday through Sunday night/... 
the trend that began appearing in the model suite two days ago...is 
now consensus for the weekend. 00 UTC GFS/NAM/ECMWF have cold front 
stalling along I-95 corridor by Friday morning. Sharp 500hpa trough from 
qb to Appalachians moving east...as series of short waves dive 
southward into it and cut it off. 


During Friday it cuts off over the Middle Atlantic States...coastal 
cyclogenisus ensues off Long Island...and the slowly deepening surface 
low and the 500hpa cut off becoming vertical off S new eng coast 
Sat...then drift slowly north Sunday into Gulf of Maine. 


Needless to say this is going to feel more like a late October 
weekend in the northeast. During Friday -shra will transition to 
periods of rain in Anna type front between surface front and 500hpa axis. 
At same time gradient between 1031mb high over Midwest...and 
deepening surface low off Long Island will result in a 14mb wind 
gradient across New York state Friday & Sat. North winds will increase to 10-20 miles per hour and 
result will be a rainy raw Friday and Sat. 


GFS quantitative precipitation forecast of 1-2.5 inches...European model (ecmwf) 0.75 to 1.0 Friday night through 
Sat nt. 


During the day Friday temperatures will just hold steady near 
morning lows...before falling during Friday afternoon in strong cold air advection. They 
will fall further Friday nt into the 40s with 30s in western 
periphery. Sat highs will be in the 50s and low 60s with clouds 
and periods of rain. Maximum min temperatures in guidance are probably not 
much use...as alot of non-diurnal effects going on Friday into Sat. 
Will use 3 hourlies and let maximum/mins fall out. 


Of note is that the western edge of the precipitation/clouds with this 
system will be a very sharp transition...somewhere on the western 
periphery of fca. Precipitation could be spotty or non-existent along west 
edge of fca...and there may be periods of thinning clouds which 
would allow temperatures to drop to near freezing during mornings. 


Sun the vertical system will continue to drift through the Gulf 
of Maine...into the Maritimes sun nt. The GFS has clouds and -shra 
dim Sunday with increasing sun along west prtns of fca. The European model (ecmwf) keeps it 
cloudy and wet into sun evening. The o6utc NAM/GFS are a tad more 
progressive with this system and has clouds and rain only from hud 
valley east Sat...and the system clearly exiting region Sat nt. 


For now forecast reflects 00utc model suite timing...with skies finally 
clearing sun nt across fca as 500hpa ridging builds into the Great Lakes 
and surface high builds into east Great Lakes. But if the emerging trend 
continues on later runs...conditions might noticeable improve 
across fca for Sunday. 


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Long term /Monday through Wednesday/... 
after a soggy Holiday weekend...the cutoff and surface system depart 
as ridge at 500hpa builds into Great Lakes and surface high builds from 
Great Lakes to Carolinas Monday. This pattern will shift east as large 
500 hpa ridge builds over east USA and surface high settles off the East 
Coast. Temperatures will return to near normal Monday..and build upward 
into the week. Fca in warm air advection regime throughout. The GFS brings a 
warm front and chance -shra/thunderstorms late Tuesday and Wednesday...while European model (ecmwf) keeps it 
dry into Thursday. Only 6 members of the gefs are in line with the 
operational run precipitation Wednesday...the rest of their plumes are flat 
lined. Wpc holds precipitation off till end of efp on Thursday. So for now will 
have a fair warm efp...with a very noticeable warming trend to above 
normal temperatures. Will populate with wpc from midnight shift. 


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Aviation /15z Thursday through Monday/... 
some low clouds and fog lingering for an hour or two at kpou and psf 
this morning with MVFR/IFR conditions. Otherwise...some partial clearing 
over eastern New York and western New England should last to around 
16z...when showers and thunderstorms could develop and approach 
the taf sites. The one exception is kgfl where a few showers may 
impact the terminal between 12z-14z. 


Since current shower activity is well west...and 
the timing of development and tracking of thunderstorms is so 
uncertain...just putting generic thunderstorms in the vicinity at all sites between 16z and 
22z...as more specific timing will be provided in later taf 
issuances. Steadier rain and/or thunderstorms should be around the 
airports by 22z-24z...so lowered conditions at all taf sites to 
MVFR ceilings and visibilities in showers for this evening and 
tonight. Again...uncertainties in how the thunderstorms will 
evolve later this afternoon and evening...so just indicating 
showers. Later taf issuances will address the thunderstorm timing. 


Winds are south to southwest at around 10 knots...with a few gusts 
around 15 knots early this morning...and should continue through the 
day. Winds should trend to southwest and west after midnight tonight 
as the cold front tracks through. 


Outlook... 
Friday...mainly VFR. Chance -tsra mainly in the am. 
Sat-Mon...VFR/MVFR. Chance -shra. 


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Fire weather... 
no fire weather concerns into Sunday. Periods of rain...moderate 
to heavy at times will continue into the Holiday weekend. 


Relative humidity values will increase to 85 to 100 percent tonight...and 
Friday night...and lower to 45 to 60 percent Thursday afternoon 
and only 60-80 percent Friday afternoon. 


Winds will generally be south at 5 to 10 miles per hour today...turning north 
Friday and increasing to 10 to 15 miles per hour. . 


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Hydrology... 
European model (ecmwf) and GFS very aggressive in bringing heavy rainfall into County Warning Area 
into the Memorial Day weekend. Operational European model (ecmwf) and GFS produce 
2.50 to 5.0 inches of rain in County Warning Area into Sunday. Gefs show average 
of 2.0 inches through weekend with 8 members pushing in excess of 
3.5 inches. 


First challenge for heavy rain will come with todays slowly moving 
front. Eastern County Warning Area and central County Warning Area have seen heaviest rain over 
the last two days and would appear to be the region where flash 
flood threat is at highest. A Flash Flood Watch will be issued for 
these areas. 


&& 


Aly watches/warnings/advisories... 
CT...none. 
New York...Flash Flood Watch through Friday morning for nyz032-033- 
038>043-047>054-082>084. 
Massachusetts...none. 
Vermont...Flash Flood Watch through Friday morning for vtz013>015. 


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$$ 
Synopsis...Snyder/wasula 
near term...NAS/wasula 
short term...Snyder 
long term...Snyder 
aviation...NAS/wasula 
fire weather...Snyder 
hydrology...Snyder